Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Raiders of the Lost Ark/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 00:18, 29 March 2008.

Raiders of the Lost Ark
Nominator. I'm nominating this article for featured article because I think this article meets all of the criteria for promotion to FA status. It is well-written and researched and represents an important milestone in the history of cinema. J.D. (talk) 13:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Articlestats
 * Alientraveller 246 (notified)
 * The Wookieepedian 57
 * ColdFusion650 55
 * Dark Kubrick 44
 * Mrwojo 23
 * Raiderss 15
 * J.D. 13

Maralia (talk) 15:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hope these comments are of use. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comments from
 * Firstly, checked the links, there are some dead ones, here.
 * Should you refer to Indy? His nickname isn't introduced, and perhaps it's a little unencyclopaedic anyway...
 * Any reason why the screengrabs are different sizes?
 * Jones' or Jones's - be consistent.
 * Where Magnum P.I. finishes a sentence, in the lead you have another full stop, in the article you don't. Be consistent again.
 * Don't overlink Star Wars.
 * "was the exact same location" - exact is redundant here.
 * "cast & crew" - cast and crew.
 * Could link to specific Academy award articles.
 * Page ranges in the citations need to use the en-dash, not hyphen.

Oppose


 * 1) The nominator is not a major contributor and thus unlikely to be able "to respond positively to constructive criticism and to make an effort to address objections promptly".
 * 2) This article is simply not FAC-ready. It requires a close copy-edit by a good copy-editor:
 * to get the English to a professional level;
 * to ensure MoS compliance; and
 * to reduce the huge amount of trivia masquerading as encyclopedic content.


 * Examples
 * Strange capitalisation: Army intelligence, Ark, Staff
 * Measures and conversions: "A fibreglass boulder 22 feet in diameter" > "22 ft (7 m) ; "the boulder run by 50ft" > 50ft (16 m)"; "a 12-inch doll" > "12-inch (16 cm)". Also need standardizing.
 * Currency: "$20 million (USD)" > "US$20 million"
 * Dashes: the choice is unspaced emdashes or spaced endashes. This uses spaced emdashes ("We didn't do 30 or 40 takes — production; usually only four").
 * Ampersand: "Several members of the cast & crew fell ill"
 * Missing hyphens: "under cranked", "double exposed", "a 100 page".
 * Superfluous hyphens: "by the second-unit who"
 * Ellipses: no spaces between points
 * Trivia: "Several members of the cast & crew fell ill; Rhys-Davies in particular defecated in his costume"; "An amateur shot-for-shot remake was made by Chris Strompolos, Eric Zala and Jayson Lamb, etc"; "Unlike the character he portrayed, Ford does not actually have a fear of snakes; Spielberg was not afraid either".
 * -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 08:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I assure you the fan remake is hardly trivial:
 * Variety
 * Austin Chronicles
 * Wired
 * Village Voice
 * The Guardian
 * Minnesota Public Radio
 * The New York Sun
 * Indie Wire
 * The Age
 * Time Out
 * Archaeology News
 * Pop Matters
 * The Observer
 * Alientraveller (talk) 17:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.