Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rakoto Frah/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by 16:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC).

Rakoto Frah

 * Nominator(s): Lemurbaby (talk) 04:05, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Learn about Rakoto Frah, possibly the greatest cultural hero of Madagascar in the 20th century - all because of his incredible skills and creativity as a performer of the sodina, a traditional flute brought over with the island's original Indonesian settlers more than two millennia ago. Although Rakoto Frah isn't well known in the US, Ian Anderson, flutist of Jethro Tull, cited him as an influence. I'm nominating the article because it's complete, thoroughly researched and definitely a noteworthy topic - particularly since he's the only non-political figure ever to appear on a Malagasy banknote. Lemurbaby (talk) 04:05, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Media review
 * Feo Gasy or Feo-Gasy?
 * I've corrected that one hyphenated instance to Feo Gasy. Thanks for catching that. Lemurbaby (talk) 01:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * File:Feogasy_Rakotofrah.ogg: this non-free sample does not include an FUR for this specific article. Also, should use creation not upload date. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:48, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added a mention/link to this article, corrected to show the creation date, and expanded a bit on the justification. Lemurbaby (talk) 01:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Comments from Crisco 1492
 * Addressed comments moved to talk


 * Support, my comments have all been dealt with to my satisfaction. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:22, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Source review & comments by Maky:
 * Like Crisco 1492 above, the weight of the last paragraph seems a little strong. The mention is fine, but details about the cohorts seems a little over-the-top.
 * I've shortened and reframed now (see my response to Crisco above). Lemurbaby (talk) 04:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It is better. Just be aware that you will need to keep this material up-to-date because of the potentially dated statements that are made. –  Maky  « talk » 03:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * FYI I rephrased the bit at the end that had the potential to date it; less risk now. Lemurbaby (talk) 05:19, 17 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I found some close paraphrasing where it reads: "The American composer and jazz saxophonist Ornette Coleman described Rakoto Frah as having some of the best phrasing of any musician in the world. Ian Anderson, flutist and leader of Jethro Tull, cited him as a key influence." (Source: "Ornette Coleman disait de lui qu’il possédait un des plus beaux phrasés du monde. Ian Anderson, flûtiste et leader de Jethro Tull, le citait comme sa référence majeure.) This is very close to a direct translation.
 * If the source were in English I'd be happy to put quotes around it - can I do that with a direct translation? Lemurbaby (talk) 04:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I do (see Ruma Maida, The Mirror Never Lies, Albertus Soegijapranata, etc.) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I put quotes around these. Lemurbaby (talk) 03:24, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


 * "By exposing global audiences to traditional sodina performances, Rakoto Frah became an unofficial ambassador of the instrument and the musical heritage of Madagascar." – I'm not sure the source supports this.
 * I'll come back to this hopefully after work to find a better source (or sources). Lemurbaby (talk) 04:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I removed references to the term "unofficial ambassador" and instead discussed how he raised international awareness of traditional Malagasy music, or promoted traditional music internationally. Lemurbaby (talk) 03:24, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Otherwise, every other randomly sampled sentence checked out with its source without any close paraphrasing. I reviewed the GAN a while back, and feel this article is very near FAC standards. I will be happy to support when the issues are addressed. – Maky  « talk » 19:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Maky and Crisco, I've addressed all your comments. Thanks for your reviews. Lemurbaby (talk) 03:24, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Support: I now feel this article meets FAC standards. – Maky  « talk » 03:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Comments from Amakuru:

I've not reviewed too many articles before, but have done the FAC thing myself a couple of times so will give this one a go... feel free to contradict anything I say if it doesn't make sense!
 * Thanks for coming by and taking the time to review - I really appreciate it! Lemurbaby (talk) 19:21, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Addressed comments moved to talk


 * Support - all my comments have been addressed to my satisfaction and I am satisfied that this article meets FA standards - the prose is excellent, coverage is good (summarises all information easily available through sources) and well researched and it has good structure and use of images. All in all an excellent read! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Graham Colm (talk) 15:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
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