Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Release the Stars/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 19:39, 4 April 2009.

Release the Stars

 * Nominator(s): Another Believer  ( Talk )

I am nominating this for featured article because I believe it qualifies and I have made improvements based on a peer review session. Thanks so much! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * TEcH. Review -- Ref formatting (WP:REFTOOLS script), dabs and external links (respective link checker tools) are all found up to speed.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   01:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments -
 * What makes the following sources reliable?
 * http://www.chartstats.com/index.php
 * http://www.newnownext.com/2007/04/index.html
 * Note I checked this at Peer Review, and asked about these also. I'm not convinced about the LOGO one at all, the first one, I'd like to see a bit more about why it's reliable, unrelated to the wikiproject's recommendation.
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not sure how else to insist NewNowNext.com is the official blog of the TV channel Logo. The network's logo appears in the banner and Logo is mentioned throughout the "About This Blog" section. I'd like to reiterate that the reference, in this case, is only being used to cite the airing of a television program on the network--it is not contributing any other information to the article. ChartStats was used on Rufus Wainwright discography, which was recently promoted to FL status. Is there a better source or database that can be used to cite UK Singles Chart positions? I can try to find an article that indicates the position reached. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ugh. Sorry, I didn't get the first time that Logo is a television channel. (I'm a Yank and I watch very little besides Discovery and History Channel...) That's done. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem! Perhaps I did not explain that well enough the first time. Any suggestions for replacing ChartStats? I have used it in the past without problem, but I am not saying that reason will work here. I am simply not aware of any other databases that keep track of UK Singles Chart positions. Is acharts.us acceptable? -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:45, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no clue, honestly. I'd love for someone to show ChartStats reliable so that I can quit questioning it. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That's my problem. I don't know how to show a source is reliable. According to this chart, theofficialcharts.com is reliable for citing UK Singles Chart positions. However, the archive here only display Top 40 positions, as opposed to all Top 100 positions. It's a shame there isn't a single, simple, reliable database with this information. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * To determine the reliability of the site, we need to know what sort of fact checking they do. You can establish this by showing news articles that say the site is reliable/noteworthy/etc. or you can show a page on the site that gives their rules for submissions/etc. or you can show they are backed by a media company/university/institute, or you can show that the website gives its sources and methods, or there are some other ways that would work too. It's their reputation for reliability that needs to be demonstrated. Please see Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches for further detailed information Ealdgyth - Talk 00:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. Here is how ChartStats operates. I will continue to look for a newspaper article that mentions the peak position for "Going to a Town". -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment—Is "pop classical" a real genre? I've never heard of it, and we don't have an article on it either... I think you can cut down on some of the names listed in the lead; stuff like guest musicians don't really belong there. Also, as somebody who has never listened to Wainwright, the lead tells me nothing about the music on the record. More later. indopug (talk) 15:51, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed the genre to baroque pop. Wainwright's music can be hard to categorize, but this genre is used often since he tends to draw from both pop and classical influences. As for the guest musicians, I understand where you are coming from, but in this case I think the names are relevant because they are famous performers and family members. I did remove Julianna Raye, however, since she is not a family member and does not have an article here on WP. In what way(s) should the music on the record be addressed? An overall theme for the album? I'd be happy to expand. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
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