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The article was promoted by Sarastro1 via FACBot (talk) 13:31, 17 December 2017.

Rhode Island Tercentenary half dollar

 * Nominator(s): Wehwalt (talk) 07:14, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

This article is about... another coin, with quite a bit of chicanery going on, though it doesn't get the bad press as much as others. Enoy. Wehwalt (talk) 07:14, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Comments from Dank

 * "This incensed coin collectors, and led Congress to move in the direction of banning commemorative coins due to the abuses.": I can't tell what this sentence from the lead is referring to; I didn't see it in the text, reading quickly.
 * "depositary": I don't know, I think there's a chance of confusion with "depository".
 * "had been wound up, having shown a profit of": To British ears, "had been wound up" is "was made nervous or angry". Maybe this? "wound up with a profit of"
 * Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. Well done. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 02:46, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review and the support. I've adjusted those things.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:35, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Sources review

 * Ref 7 needs pp. not p.
 * Refs 8/9/10: The links on the page ranges aren't particularly helpful, as using them doesn't provide a means of entry beyond the paywall. The useful link is found in the sources section.
 * That's not the same source. I could supply a link to the Congressional Record on ProQuest Congressional, but I'm not sure if it would be useful, you still need the subscription.


 * Sources: I can't find citations to Yeoman 2015
 * Last one of the article.

Otherwise, all sources look of appropriate quality and reliability. Brianboulton (talk) 16:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:35, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Support Comments

 * The obverse image lacks a clear statement that the photos is Bobby131313's own work, although I'm fairly certain that that's true.
 * I think that the circumstances make it clear.


 * The other image is properly licensed.
 * Shouldn't there be another comma after 'Island' in Providence, Rhode Island Tercentenary half dollar?
 * Add a link to Rhode Island in the lede.
 * Concur with Dank, that the last sentence in the lede is awkward.
 * Agree with the criticisms of the design, the human figures are badly done and what's up with Williams' cuffs and arms? And the Indian's right forearm seems oddly lengthy. And the lettering does dominate the design, although perhaps that helps to minimize the impact of the central image.
 * I think that it's a good thing when my artistic critique of the design is longer a than my substantial review of the article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:24, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I won't disagree with you about the design, which seems ugly and cartoonish. Thank you for the review and support.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:35, 3 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Support, in line with my review cop out. Nice piece of work. In addition to Sturmvogel's comments, I have just one point about a word in the Background section:
 * "applied political pressure to get the coin": is "get" the best word - makes him sound like he was trying to obtain a single coin for himself. Would "commission" or similar, work instead?
 * Aside from that minute nit-picking, this meets the FA criteria on prose. – SchroCat (talk) 07:02, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review and support. I've made that change.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:35, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Support on prose Comments by Finetooth


 * Lead
 * ¶2 Link House of Representatives?
 * ¶2 "The amended bill was approved by both houses..." – Amend this to say "both houses of Congress" and link Congress?


 * Background and legislation
 * ¶1 Link Puritan?
 * ¶1 Link Massachusetts Bay Colony?
 * ¶1 Link Salem?
 * ¶2 "...sold by the government—Congress, in authorizing legislation,..." – I think a semicolon or a terminal period would be more appropriate here than an emdash.
 * ¶3 "for passage in the Senate" – Link Senate?


 * Preparation
 * ¶1 "The Tercentenary Commission's coin committee originally proposed the seven stars from an early version of Providence's seal, with the anchor from Rhode Island's seal and the state motto, "Hope". – Maybe "... originally proposed including in the design..." for clarity?
 * ¶1 Link Philadelphia Mint? Likewise Denver Mint and San Francisco Mint?


 * Production, distribution, and collecting
 * ¶4 "...that he could not consult Grant about some issue as Nichols apparently had suggested..." – "Some issue" seems confusing. Maybe delete "about some issue"?


 * General
 * Alt text would be nice even though not required. I don't know if there's a way to add it to the infobox images.
 * No problem with disambiguation links.
 * No dead URLs.
 * No duplinks.
 * That's all. Finetooth (talk) 03:42, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. With the exception of alt text (I will be happy to, if someone knows how) in the infobox, I've made those changes.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Support on prose. Finetooth (talk) 21:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Support from Moise. I have read through twice and it all looks very good. Moisejp (talk) 15:04, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review and support.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Support Comments from Jim
Just a couple of things before I support Jimfbleak - talk to me?  16:52, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Link Salem and Orpheus
 * Providence Tercentenary Commission&mdash; I get no sense, as a Brit, of what this was. Was it a business, a charity or a politically appointed committee?
 * I can't find a huge amount on the commission, but I've added a bit. Likely it was chartered by the state legislature, and consisted of prominent locals. That's how it usually was. Thank you for the review.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I wasn't expecting much on the commission, but I thought it was worth asking the question, changed to support above Jimfbleak - talk to me?  08:03, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Closing comment: I notice that there is no alt text on the images. While alt text is not an explicit requirement at FA, I always feel that we should demonstrate best practice. But that is a choice for the main editors, and is not worth delaying promotion over. Sarastro (talk) 13:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Sarastro (talk) 13:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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