Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/SMS Hannover/archive1

SMS Hannover

 * Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk) 11:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Yet another German battleship article (and the last of the Kaiser's battleships to grace FAC), this one had a fairly length career, seeing action during World War I at the Battle of Jutland, serving with the postwar navy as one of the few ships allowed under the Versailles treaty, then being used in weapons tests in the late 1930s, before ultimately being scrapped in the mid-1940s. Thanks to all who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 11:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Comments Support by CPA-5
I'll do this one tomorrow or Sunday. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 20:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC) Here we've the last one of the Deutschland family. :) Infobox
 * Link long tons.
 * Done
 * Link knots.
 * Done
 * Hannover was laid down on 7 November 1904 Remove 1904.
 * Done
 * This sentence She displaced 14,218 metric tons (13,993 long tons) at full loading uses only long tons but this sentence capacity of up to 1,540 metric tons (1,520 long tons; 1,700 short tons) of coal uses both short and long tons.
 * Fixed
 * stopped in Ponta Delgada in the Azores from 23 July to 1 August Add Portugal after "Azores".
 * Done
 * Link Kiel.
 * Done
 * The ship won the Kaiser's Schießpreis (Shooting Prize) Link Kaiser.
 * Done
 * 1914 began as previous years had, with squadron training. Try to avoid using a nummer at the start of a sentence.
 * Fixed
 * At midnight on 4 August, the United Kingdom declared war on Germany Link United Kingdom with the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland's article and Germany with the German Empire's article.
 * Done
 * Link World War I.
 * Done
 * Link nautical mile.
 * Done
 * Under orders from Wilhelm II to avoid battle if victory Link the Kaiser here.
 * Done
 * during the operation to bombard Yarmouth and Lowestoft on 24–25 April.[14][13] Suggest to switch the citations here.
 * Good catch
 * 11 November 1918, Germany entered into the armistice with the Western Allies Remove 1918.
 * Done
 * Link Spain with the Restoration (Spain)'s article.
 * Done
 * Link France with the French Third Republic's article.
 * Done

That's anything from me. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:14, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * "22.20 m (72 ft 10 in)" the extra nought in the metre is unnecessary.
 * Removed
 * Thanks CPA. Parsecboy (talk) 22:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks great. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:20, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Image review


 * Suggest scaling up the Jutland diagram
 * Good idea
 * Suggest adding alt text. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:45, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * See if what I added is useful - I'm not particularly sure about the maps. Parsecboy (talk) 00:15, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Source review
The sources used are all solidly reliable. The sources referred to seem to support the text cited, insofar as I have checked them. I consider the sources to be current. Everything that I would expect to be cited, is.
 * Possibly give the full title for Hore and for Hildebrand et al?
 * You've worn me down ;)
 * Further reading: The full title is Warship 2014; could you add the names of the editors.
 * Added

Gog the Mild (talk) 16:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gog. Parsecboy (talk) 00:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt
Thank you for another good one: Let's see:

Lead Peacetime
 * 2 links in a row in the first sentence, and 2 times "slightly" in the second.
 * My interpretation of WP:SEAOFBLUE is two links in a row is OK but three is a problem
 * "After Jutland" - it wasn't immediately clear (to me) that the battle was meant. I wonder how that is pronounced, btw. Hannover is so nicely German ;)
 * Switched "After the battle..."
 * Link Kiel and Wilhemshaven?
 * Wilhelmshaven is already linked earlier and CPA already got me on Kiel ;)


 * "the Kaiser's Schießpreis" - a bit awkward, as the article is already in the award name, somewhat like the The Beatles. I wouldn't capitalise "Shooting Prize, and why not translate Kaiser's? - "the emperor's shooting prize"?
 * I used the German for the award with the idea of emphasizing that it was a significant thing, and Kaiser is routinely used in English.

Postwar service Nice job! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Palma, Majorca, Cartagena, and Vigo - that looks like 4 ports at a glance
 * Tweaked to make clearer what Majorca is.
 * Thanks Gerda! Parsecboy (talk) 21:16, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. Still think the prize shouldn't have a "the", but no reason not to support ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Support by Sturmvogel_66

 * Link guard ship, 8-point turn point,
 * Done
 * A few too many "she"s in the last paragraph of the lede. Mix it up with a Hannover or two
 * Done
 * Do we know what kind of mods were made to improve their underwater protection?
 * No, unfortunately - I would suspect it was rather limited, as apart from bulging there isn't a whole lot one can do to completed ships (especially in the span of a month or two)
 * night march back ships marching?
 * Two by two, hurrah, hurrah ;)
 * the Hessen ?
 * Fixed
 * armored cruiser HMS Black Prince; Black Prince was quickly destroyed awkward
 * Fixed
 * forced to heel out of line never seen heel used in this context. Suggest "fell" out of line.
 * Done
 * Do the sources tell us what mods were made to make her suitable as a guard ship?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hildebrand et. al. don't say, unfortunately. Thanks Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 17:17, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks good.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:17, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 07:40, 29 June 2019 (UTC)