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SMS Nassau

 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:Ian Rose 10:15, 31 July 2013.


 * Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk) 18:53, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

This was the first German dreadnought battleship, and perhaps somewhat curiously, the second to last to grace the illustrious FAC pages. I wrote this article back in 2009, when it passed both GA and A-class reviews. Hopefully not too much dust has gathered on the article in the 3+ years since, but I look forward to working with reviewers to ensure this article is an example of Wikipedia's best work. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 18:53, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Support on prose per new standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 21:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Image check - all OK (US and UK government, German Federal Archive, own work). Sources and authors provided. 1 nitpick:
 * File:SMS_Nassau_illustration.jpg - would be good to add some bibliographic info for the source book. Author is Robert Gardiner? ISBN? Year and publisher? Makes it easier to check the source for other editors. GermanJoe (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's this book - added the details to the image description. Parsecboy (talk) 16:22, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Source review - spotchecks not done
 * Some of the details in the infobox (for example, complement) are unsourced
 * Quotes of 40+ words should be blockquoted
 * Location for Hough? Nikkimaria (talk) 20:31, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Should all be fixed, thanks Nikki. Parsecboy (talk) 14:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Comments based on Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz, volume 6
 * christened by Princess Hilda of Nassau under watchfull eyes of the Kaiser and Prince Henry of the Netherlands (1820–1879), page 135. MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hermann Bauer was one of the commanders (November 1918 to December 1918), page 133 MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Both added in, thanks MB. Parsecboy (talk) 11:36, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wait, something must be wrong? I gave you a wrong link. HRS says Heinrich der Niederlande (I just checked again) but this Heinrich here was dead already. MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:12, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure Prince Henry was Queen Wilhelmina's husband so I changed the link; I'm not sure if he's really a member of the House of Orange-Nassau though. Kirk (talk) 20:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No, he would be a member of the House of Mecklenburg-Schwerin. His wife, Queen Wilhelmina, was a member of Orange-Nassau, however. How does this look? Parsecboy (talk) 20:21, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion. I am happy to support MisterBee1966 (talk) 10:27, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Comments
 * Infobox:
 * Fixed the namesake citation.
 * Thanks.
 * The armor section was uncited. I also couldn't tell which one of those was supposed to be the deck armor so maybe you can add it?
 * Also, I reviewed Nassau-class battleship and it has the same infobox but different details in the prose, so both need some work. Kirk (talk) 14:06, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Should be straightened out now.
 * The main and secondary battery need links. Kirk (talk) 20:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I fixed the links to match Oldenburg. Kirk (talk) 14:06, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That was the wrong link for the 28cm gun - should have been the 45-caliber not the 50-caliber version. Thanks, as always, for reviewing the article and all your work, Kirk. Parsecboy (talk) 14:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Whoops - I thought I caught that yesterday.
 * The other articles in this series cite the use of older triple reciprocating engines instead of turbines based either on the cost of importing them from Britain or turbine engines were not being built in Germany because the license cost was too high. The quote "use of turbines in heavy warships does not recommend itself." probably needs explanation why Tirpiz and the construction department didn't recommend them; I think they meant because the cost was too high for the benefit. Note: Staff p.23 asserts it was because they weren't being built in Germany. Kirk (talk) 15:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Added in. Parsecboy (talk) 15:43, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - the penultimate SMS Dreadnaught FAC and I look forward to reviewing Posen! Kirk (talk) 14:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - An excellent article that covers its subject concisely. The references are precise and consistent. I only wish you hadn't used so many commas throughout.  ceran  thor 22:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Support Comments 
 * Coal or oil-fired?
 * Not required, but I suggest adding the |0 to all the metric to English conversions.
 * Link bridge--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:32, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Should all be taken care of. Thanks Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 00:19, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Delegate comment -- can you just check your dup links pls Nate? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:02, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Should all be fixed, thanks for reminding me, Ian. Parsecboy (talk) 13:50, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 13:59, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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