Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/SS Montanan


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The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 22:50, 25 November 2008.

SS Montanan

 * Nominator(s): Bellhalla (talk)

I believe that this article meets the featured article requirements. It has passed a GA review and a Military History A-Class review. — Bellhalla (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Comments -
 * What makes http://water.worldcitydb.com/matanilla_reef_2198331.html a reliable source?
 * My guess is that their information comes from some sort of (probably PD) database, but I was unable to find it duplicated anywhere. I added it only for a map link to show where the reef is, so not being an essential detail, I've removed it. — Bellhalla (talk) 17:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Any way to spell out DANFS in the short notes?
 * Same answer as from the other FAC: I updated the cite DANFS template to allow for a "first" version of the short form and set the parameter in its first invocation. Can you take a look and see if that is satisfactory? — Bellhalla (talk) 23:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Close to supporting. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  14:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Comments &mdash; Good work overall. Some minor concerns:
 * While in another eastbound convoy in August 1918, USAT Montanan was torpedoed and sunk by U-90 some 500 nautical miles (900 km) west of Le Verdon-sur-Mer, France. - Remove "some".
 * Removed.
 * Provisions of the deal allowed that some of the nine installments could be converted into longer-term notes or mortgages. - "Allowed that" is slightly odd.
 * Changed to: "The deal had provisions that allowed some of the nine installments to be converted…"
 * On 2 December, The Washington Post reported on an incident involving Montanan. - Remove "on".
 * Removed.
 * The majority of the cargo was rice—from Japan, China, and California—which was destined for the United Kingdom to feed Indian troops then fighting in Europe. - Not sure "then" is needed.
 * Removed.
 * Montanan departed with her group on the morning of 17 June for Brest, France, steaming at an 11-knot (20 km/h) pace. - Needs a conversion to mph. There are a couple more of these farther down.
 * One reason I don't often put miles per hour conversions in addition to km/h conversions is that, using convert you get the weird double slash thing going, like this: 11 knots. Also, in the speeds discussed for this ship (as opposed to, say for a tropical storm or hurricane) knots end up being very close to mph and, in my opinion, do not add much understanding. However, if you think them necessary, I will add them in.
 * Not a big deal, but is there any info on the shipwreck after it sunk? For example, have any efforts been made to recover it or any part of it?
 * Nothing that I came across. Since it wasn't reported as carrying, say, gold, or something, I'm not sure anything it carried would be valuable enough to attempt a salvage, especially since the area where it might be as deep as 4800 m.
 * (Replies interspersed above.) — Bellhalla (talk) 17:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Image review - Both images have descriptions and verifiable licenses. Awadewit (talk) 01:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Excellent work. Karanacs (talk) 20:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Very clearly written. An interesting peek at history. (Did some minor copy editing.)  &mdash; Mattisse  (Talk) 22:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Gave it a copyedit pass; only found a few minor things. Well done as usual.Maralia (talk) 05:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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