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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by 10:01, 6 April 2013 (UTC).

Sair Tjerita Siti Akbari

 * Nominator(s): — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because I believe it is a comprehensive look at an obscure piece of pre-Indonesian literature. Lie Kim Hok was one of the earliest Chinese Indonesian writers and is known as the father of Chinese Malay literature, but his oeuvre has been little studied. This, his first major work of fiction, seems to have been the most discussed so far. It's also ironic, in my opinion, that the work which brought him so much fame was also the one which essentially ruined his legacy. Why? Read the article :-). As a side note, if promoted this will be our first featured article on a work of literature from what is now Indonesia. I'd like to thank all the PRers as well: Sarastro, Dwaipayan, Wehwalt, and Arsonal. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support had my say at the peer review, it's only improved since then.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:10, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support with my own . My concerns about article structure were resolved after the peer review. I have one question, though: The lead uses the plural syairs while the last sentence of the Reception and legacy section uses the plural syair. Do we use the plural inflection on Malay/Indonesian nouns when they are written in English? — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 13:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Good question, playing around with Google for an answer. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:32, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I have several sources which use the plural form syairs (An Introduction to Modern Malaysian Literature and "Classical and Modern Malay Literature") so I have standardised to use the "s" (seems to have only been one instance). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was the only one not inflected. No more problems from me. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 13:44, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:14, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. Even though Biran is the only book source without a publication location listed (I believe it's Jakarta). Hey, I had to find something in the references to pick on or it wouldn't be FAC, right? Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL, that was good for a chuckle. Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, I've managed to scrape up one more question! I think this is the same material (albeit in French instead of Indonesian) as the Zaini-Lajoubert reference you're already citing. However, this journal article is from 1994, and the compilation you're referencing has a 1996 publication date, so I suspect that the French version is the original material. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's the same material. I'm citing the Indonesian translation because my French is quite rusty, although I'll certainly double check with the original. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Double check done. Looks fine, based on my reading. We can cite the original French if you prefer (might be more accessible than a print book in Indonesian) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think I'd cite the original French journal article (especially as it is available online), rather than a dead-tree translation. But either one is fine with me so far as the FA criteria go. Nicely done. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Got this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Got this. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Support: I commented at the PR and my concerns were addressed there. An interesting, well-written and well-researched article which I followed despite knowing nothing about the subject or backgrounds. Sarastro1 (talk) 17:10, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Image check - all OK (sources and available authors provided, PD-age), one minor tweak done.
 * File:Sair_Tjerita_Siti_Akbari.jpg - OK (changed Indonesian tag to Art. 29 pertaining specifically to books). GermanJoe (talk) 08:08, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:21, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support I participated in the peer review of the article. As of now, the article seems to meet FA criteria.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:51, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for everything! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:37, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. I really enjoyed reading through this last night. A deserved FA in my opinion, nice article! --   Cassianto Talk    18:10, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment for the delegates: Based on the reviews above, this nomination has already had an image check and has six supports. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:48, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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