Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sale, Greater Manchester/archive5


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 03:25, 13 January 2009.

Sale, Greater Manchester

 * Nominator(s): User:Nev1
 * previous FAC (20:16, 16 August 2008)

I'm nominating this article for FA because I believe it meets the criteria. Since its last FAC was closed on 16 August, the article has undergone significant copy-editing, addressing the main concern last time that the prose was not up to standard. Thanks in advance to anyone who spends their time reviewing the article. Nev1 (talk) 17:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Just found a nice toy to check dead external links, "Drinking water quality report" and "James Prescott Joule (1818 - 1889): A Manchester Son And The Father Of The International Unit Of Energy" are dead now, should be removed or replaced. --Stefan talk 18:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, both links have been replaced, one with a book and the other from Internet Archive. Is it acceptable to use IA? Nev1 (talk) 19:20, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:REF says it is ok, thanks. --Stefan talk 19:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments -
 * Current ref 68 (KS13...) is lacking a publisher
 * Corrected. Nev1 (talk) 20:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * What makes http://www.englishgolf-courses.co.uk/cheshire/ashtononmersey.php a reliable source?
 * I've found a better source than that one, one publisher by Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council. Nev1 (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Likewise http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/326_united_synagogues.htm?
 * The site is run by JMT Ventures, a "leading independent Jewish media and communications company"; I believe this makes it reliable. Nev1 (talk) 20:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd rather see something third party testifying to their "leading" status. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, how about this independent source stating the site allows "allows Jewish organisations and community groups to distribute press releases free online"; while it doesn't say it's "leading", hopefully the fact the information comes from Jewish organisations themselves should mean its accurate (at least for the purposes of saying under whose aegis a synagogue is under). Nev1 (talk) 22:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll leave this out for other reviewers to decide for themselves, but I lean towards reliable enough for what it's sourcing. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The Youngs reference, I think you have the wrong volume number, and there is no issue number. EHR's been published for well over a hundred years, so any article published in 1991 would NOT have been from volume OR issue 2 (They number their issues sequentially, btw). Please double check your bibliographical information. Do you mean this work? If so, it's got nothing to do with the English Historical Review, it's published by the Royal Historical Society.
 * I wasn't the one who added the reference, I shall contact the editor who did. Nev1 (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The book information has now been corrected. Nev1 (talk) 12:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The Nevell, Mike book, that ISBN is showing the publisher as Tempus, not the History Press. Double check your source or your ISBN
 * Not sure what went wrong, but Amazon shows the ISBN to be the same as the one used in the article, and details the publisher as History Press (ie: 978-0752447049). Nev1 (talk) 20:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Never trust Amazon, I use World Cat or Google. Amazon gets publishers wrong on its entries a LOT. See World Cat. Double check the book itself, please. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, didn't realise Amazon could be quite so unreliable, but in this case they seem to have got it right (I just checked the book). Also, the publisher's website lists the book with ISBN matching that in the article. Although ironically they misspelt the surname, even though it's quite clear in the cover image. Nev1 (talk) 20:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Oppose on criterion 3 File:Greater Manchester outline map with UK.png - This image needs a description, author, date, and source (a verifiable source per WP:IUP). All other images have verifiable licenses and adequate descriptions. Awadewit (talk) 03:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That would've been my fault, sorry! I am the author of the file and have upgraded the details at Wikimedia Commons. I turst that suffices. --Jza84 | Talk  04:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good. I've struck the oppose. Awadewit (talk) 04:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


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