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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 12:46, 13 May 2015.

Southern Cross (wordless novel)

 * Nominator(s): Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 08:23, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

The sole wordless novel by Canadian artist Laurence Hyde, who was late to the party—the major practitioners of the form had already moved on to other things, and there have been few such works since (a surprising number of which have been Canadian). This is a work of indignation against the nuclear tests in the Bikini Atoll, though you'll likely read it for the artwork rather than the story. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 08:23, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Comments. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. - Dank (push to talk)
 * I don't have a position on whether it's better to give dates or just years for birth and death.
 * "Hyde was familiar with some of the American Lynd Ward's books and German Otto Nückel's Destiny (1926). The only work he knew of Flemish artist Frans Masereel ...": I guess all I can say right now is that I have no confidence that FAC reviewers and writers are on the right track on "false title" issues. There are a variety of opinions among professional writers and copyeditors, and there's no easy fix that I know of ... but, in general terms, what we're doing isn't working.
 * Well, it appears I'm on both sides of the fence with this one! I'll fix that. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 05:17, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * "In talk with the CBC": Not sure what that means.
 * Should have been "a talk". Fixed. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support on prose per standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 15:34, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Images are appropriately licensed and captioned. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:14, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Support. Concise and cleanly written; I've read it twice and can see nothing to complain about. One question did occur to me: it sounds as though this was about the last of its genre. Was it the very last? Can a short note be added about the subsequent life of the genre, if any? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:14, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No—there were very few wordless novels in the following decades, but it wasn't even the last Canadian one: George Kuthan made Aphrodite's Cup (which I haven't read) in 1964, and George Walker has been active in the genre in the last several years.
 * Thanks for the support! Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Comments. nice read so far,


 *  Before beginning Southern Cross, Hyde had made unfinished attempts at two earlier series of prints. - this sentence seems odd here. do you mean 2 attempts at the same story/subject matter? If so are there any notes on whether a different approach was used? was he frustrated? Also, it would read better further up the paragraph I think (which should be in more chronological order).
 * I'll have to get back to you—the source is at home, and I just got to work. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 22:30, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Aah, I see - much better now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:53, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * They were unrelated—possibly pre-War—and were not wordless novels, but just series of prints. I've tweaked the section and named the abandoned series. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 11:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 *  Hyde made the book to express his anger at American nuclear tests in the Bikini Atoll in 1946 following the atomic bombings in Japan - this sentence would be better further up too....or altrernately in the beginning of the next section.
 * Moved it to the next section. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 22:30, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * " anti-atomic"? ...anti-nuclear surely....
 * Reworded. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 22:30, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Support on comprehensiveness and prose. Otherwise looks fine. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time! Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 14:55, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Source review:
 * Everything seems to be formatted properly and consistently, and nothing is uncited that shouldn't be. I don't see any problems here. --Coemgenus (talk) 19:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 12:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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