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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Ian Rose 13:02, 5 January 2013.

Stones Brewery

 * Nominator(s): Farrtj (talk) 02:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because I have created it from scratch to GA status, and I feel that it is now ready for FA status.Farrtj (talk) 02:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose An initial scan suggests to me the article is not ready yet.
 * Section header "The Cannon Brewery" should not include the definite article per WP:MOS.
 * References:
 * A noted beer historian's blog is (a) a blog and may not be an RS, and (b) incorrectly formatted.
 * "The Observer. 11 April 1986." is not a complete reference. It needs a title, ideally an author if there is one identified and the place of publication i.e. presumably London. There are numerous examples.
 * UK CPI inflation numbers based on data available from Lawrence H. Officer (2010) has no retrieval date.
 * "Herts CAMRA Newsletter 2008" (PDF). Retrieved 18 May 2012. has no publisher.
 * In all honesty it would be easier to list the satisfactory references rather than those that seem to be flawed.


 * At a glance the text itself seems passable and a few very quick comments follow.
 * Where is the Shalesmoor district of Sheffield? e.g. NSEW.
 * Re: "In 1919 The Crown Inn opposite the Cannon Brewery was purchased and rebuilt to serve as the brewery tap and flagship public house (in 1992 it became the brewery's visitor's centre)." Why is Crown Inn italicised? Why refer to 1992 in a section that refers to an earlier period?
 * (£116,359,137 in 2012 adjusted for inflation)[9], - you have the reference before rather than after the comma.
 * Is it normal practice to italicise trades names of beers?
 * "Stones Bitter became popular across the United Kingdom during the 1980s" is not referenced
 * I'm sorry I am not more knowledgeable about brewing or Sheffield's history, and that's all I have time for right now. Ben   Mac  Dui  15:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose – Per Ben MacDui's source issues and others that I found. I commented at the last FAC on how some of the references didn't have titles, and I'm disappointed to see that this hasn't been fully addressed before bringing the article back here. Moreover, the print references have now been made less verifiable than before, as the page numbers have been removed in almost all of them. There had been some excess information in the citations before, such as word counts, but if page numbers can be provided to make verification easier, they should be. I don't understand why they have been removed. In addition, I noticed that When Saturday Comes goes to an article about a magazine, not a movie as is implied in the article. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 01:09, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Giants2008, and please do not bring FACs back without addressing issues previously raised. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 20:52, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


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