Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The 30th/archive1

The 30th
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 04:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Nominator(s): ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"

We're dealing with an article about a Billie Eilish song; after months away from FAC, I am back. This song is quite a personal one to Eilish, as it deals with the teeny details of a friend's car accident -- this caused a traffic that Eilish found herself stuck in, twisting the knife further -- and her reactions as the events unfolded. Ready for any and all comments. ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?" 📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 04:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Oppose: should be merged into Guitar Songs along with the only other song on that EP, "TV".—indopug (talk) 08:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 11:33, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Indopug, respectfully, I greatly disagree with this assessment; I invite you to take a good, hard look at WP:NSONG and to continue this discussion in Talk:Guitar Songs because this is way outside the purview of a FAC. ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍  ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"

<sub style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 02:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * From NSONGS, "If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created" — skimming the titles of the references used here, all the coverage of "The 30th" seems to be alongside "TV", in the context of Guitar Songs.
 * Also the three articles are pretty short at ~1500 words each, and many of these words are repetitions of each other. You can easily combine all that info into one comprehensive EP article, which will still probably be only ~3000 words long at most—still very short.—indopug (talk) 15:42, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Indopug, that is why I invited you to a discussion in the Guitar songs talk page, because I dissect precisely everything you mentioned right here. <b style="border-radius:3em;padding:4px;background:#37607C;color:white;">‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ </b> ‍ <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left"><sup style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">💬 "Will you call me?"

<sub style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 11:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * after being successfully convinced to make the merge in the talk pages, I would like to nominate the EP for FAC instead of this song. Will moving this page be more optimal, or should this be procedurally closed and a new nom started? <b style="border-radius:3em;padding:4px;background:#37607C;color:white;">‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ </b> ‍ <span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left"><sup style="font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">💬 "Will you call me?"
 * Hi YP, we should treat this as a withdrawal and archive it, which I'll do shortly. Generally we require a two-week hiatus between noms following an archive but given the circumstances I'm happy to waive that if you want to nominate the EP article. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:41, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 11:43, 22 March 2023 (UTC)