Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Life and Death of 9413: a Hollywood Extra/archive1

The Life and Death of 9413: a Hollywood Extra

 * Nominator(s): — Hunter Kahn 05:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

This is, at least in my opinion, a truly fascinating little film, and an underappreciated one despite its influence on American avant-garde cinema. It's less than 15 minutes long and is available to view on YouTube if you're interested in checking out the movie itself... — Hunter Kahn 05:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC) Source review - spotchecks not done
 * Looks good for FA on a quick look, perhaps a video file of the whole film could be included if it is in the public domain, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:27, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * How would I go about adding it? It's on YouTube but I assume I don't just post it from there? — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 01:56, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks like the version you've linked above includes elements still under copyright protection - if a version entirely out of copyright could be located it could be uploaded directly. Otherwise you could use external media to provide a more prominent link. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:01, 14 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Quote in the lead should be cited there, even if repeated later
 * Done. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Given that the premiere appears uncertain, suggest omitting it from the infobox, or at least indicating the uncertainty there
 * Changed it to just the year, since that much is not in dispute. Does that work? — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The article text does not currently indicate that the year is not in dispute - if that's the case that should be specified. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Source for runtime?
 * I was under the impression this information didn't need a source since the film itself serves as a source of the information? Most FAs on films don't have a source for this. But if I'm wrong here I can try to dig one up... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Runtime will depend on version - for example the YouTube you've linked is longer. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Infobox lists a cast member as George Voya; article text lists Voya George. Which is correct?
 * Should be Voya George; made the fix. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What's your source for the budget after inflation?
 * The source is just for the budget and the original year; I assumed that was enough information to apply to the inflation template. Do we typically need a source for this? — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The inflation template uses a particular source for that calculation which should be cited, as using a different source would give a different answer. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * FN14: source link gives a different page number
 * Fixed. (This is now FN15 because of the citation for the quote in the lead.) — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * FN64 is a dead link
 * The page still existed but the URL was changed; I've updated it. (This is now FN65 because of the citation for the quote in the lead.) — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Check alphabetization of Bibliography
 * I think it looks OK, unless I'm missing something? — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Glassgold before Giovacchini. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Link provided for Allen goes to the record for a different article, and issue is missing
 * Are you sure? It's looks right to me... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Yep, I'm sure. The Allen article is listed on the page under Related articles, but the actual record is for a different source. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Dixon's name has a double Dixon?
 * Nope, that's a mistake. Fixed it. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What makes DVD Talk a high-quality reliable source?
 * It's been discussed at WP:RS/N and it seems to have been considered reliable there, and the sources and information at its own Wikipedia article seem to indicate it's a reliable source used by industry professionals. I personally still probably wouldn't rely on it for a great deal of article content, but as its used only for one brief mention of a DVD release, it seems OK to me. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Most of the journals cited include publisher and location, but Movie Makers does not - why?
 * An oversight, I guess. Fixed. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The Giovacchini title is missing a couple of 'The's
 * Fixed. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Jacobs: source lists Smoodin before Martin as editors
 * I think I just put Smoodin first to alphabatize by last name, but I switched them. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * James 2001 is missing editor. Same with Moritz, check for others
 * Added. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Quite a bit of cleanup work needed on citation formatting here. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:40, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Moritz is still missing editor, check for others. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * James 2001 link goes to the Taves 2001 chapter
 * Fixed this. I set it to automatically go to the page in the chapter where he discusses this film in particular, but if necessary I can make it just go to the beginning of the overall chapter... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Krinsky's first name doesn't match source, and should include full date here
 * Oops, yeah, it was listed as "Tamar" but should've been "Tamara." Fixed that, and added the full date. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Merritt link returns 404 error
 * It seems the preview for this book is no longer available, so I've removed the URL. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Wollstein link goes to the general section page rather than the direct source
 * Yeah, there had been a biography on the NY Times page, but it seems to be gone now, and the Internet Archive didn't capture a snapshot, unfortunately. Since this source was only reinforcing a fact already cited by two other sources, I've just gone ahead and removed it altogether. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Zecević is missing the accent, number listed as volume is actually issue
 * Fixed both. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback, Nikkimaria. Happy to respond to anything else. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 03:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Coord note
 * I'm afraid that with only a source review (vital though that is, thanks as always Nikki) after almost a month, it's time to archive this. Given the lack of other commentary, I wouldn't object to waiving the usual two-week waiting period before a re-nom, but I wonder if a shot at Peer Review mightn't be preferable first. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:43, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 06:49, 21 December 2019 (UTC)