Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Other Woman


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 23:07, 25 October 2008.

The Other Woman

 * Nominator: User:thedemonhog
 * Previous FAC (09:16, 23 August 2008)

This good article from the Lost WikiProject is about a television episode of the fourth season of Lost. At the last FAC, a potential sourcing issue was brought up and another copyedit was requested. Thanks, – thedemonhog   talk •  edits  21:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment: Image:The Other Woman.png is low resolution, has source, and compelling fair use rationale, so images meet criteria to me. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 21:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you think that any of these meets the criteria even better?  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  14:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Not happy yet—1a.
 * "From a writing standpoint, the episode provided multiple revelations for a variety of purposes: it furthered Juliet's back story and relationships with Ben,..."—sounds as though your addressing a writing workshop with a clumsy, unclear sentence. Make it plain and simple. It's a humungous sentence, too.
 * "with critics from the Los Angeles Times, Entertainment Weekly, and BuddyTV deeming it"—another "noun plus -ing" misfortune. Again, a huge sentence. Split it.
 * "Another common claim by critics was that more was learned about Ben than Juliet in the episode, which was not the writers' intention"—you know the writer personally?
 * "garnered"—a little precious.
 * "Meanwhile"—let me vomit.

Long sentences, lack of clarity, prose glitches. It's within reach, but needs solid input from copy-editors unfamiliar with the text. Tony  (talk)  05:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "Let me vomit." I am not sure if I should laugh or take offense.  Anyway, those examples have been dealt with and I have given the article another readthrough.  Thanks, – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  00:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The article has changed quite a bit since you last saw it. BuddingJournalist has copyedited the lead and first section after that and hopefully he continues.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  19:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It appears that BuddingJournalist has not edited in the last week, his last edit being his copyedit of the plot section. I will find another copyeditor.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  14:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Casliber is ‎performing a copyedit. – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  17:26, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment: What makes the following a reliable source? Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?p=1664633 - looks like a forum post to me.
 * Copied from first FAC: "The Fuselage post that is being cited is attributed to an actor on the show and his identity is "confirmed" in the site's FAQ. A couple more things to help its credibility: the forum is sponsored by an executive producer of the show and the actor posting runs a blog (i.e. he interacts with his fans on the Internet)."  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  00:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll leave this one out for other reviewers to decide for themselves. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Support: Very good article, but why don't split the reflist in two columns?-- A ndrea 93  (msg) 14:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I do not like the locked-in gaps that are created with a second column. (Someone else has added it.)  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  00:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment: Image:The Other Woman.png doesnt meet nfcc #8 or #1 Fasach Nua (talk) 13:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * There is "no free equivalent", as the show is copyrighted. As for #8, I do not know about you, but when someone mentions a 1980s electrical station on a desert island filled with computers, I do not know what to think.  There are other "purpose[s] of use" in the image description page.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  19:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Support A well-referenced article. The JPS talk to me  21:39, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Support, very well referenced, interesting and clear. Good Job!-- Music 26/  11  11:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about the vomit comment above. One thing that could improve this article significantly is the splitting of some of the paragraphs. It looks grey and daunting even at a distance. It's a 15-minute job by a copy-editor. Tony  (talk)  15:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Did you mean sections when you said "paragraphs"? (The paragraph breaks seem fine to me.)  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  01:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Support  Limetolime  Talk to me • look what I did! 01:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Support, with one comment: –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  16:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The episode opens with flashbacks to Juliet's life on the island, following her recruitment in September 2001 by the Others,[6]. - Weird punctuation.


 * Huh, that was weird. Fixed, unless you liked the first comma.  – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  08:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Support (I'm a little embarrassed I didn't pop up here earlier!) A nice article, I couldn't find anything wrong or questionable myself. — 97198 (talk) 11:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
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