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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 14:59, 22 March 2008.

Treehouse of Horror V
I am nominating this article as I believe I've done all I can to improve it and gain feedback on it. Through the help of several of WP:SIMPSONS, including User:Cirt and User:Gran2, I was able exspand many areas and I hope that this article will be promoted to featured status. Thank you. Buc (talk) 17:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Mainly due to the production section. It's basically a very large proselist.  Equazcion •✗/C • 17:47, 17 Mar 2008 (UTC)
 * A very large what? Buc (talk) 17:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * A proselist: A list of disjointed facts thrown together in prose (paragraph form).  Equazcion •✗/C • 17:58, 17 Mar 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok well if you can tell where the problem is I can work on fixing it. Buc (talk) 18:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * From the production section:

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 * Featured article candidates are supposed to contain brilliant prose. This could pretty much have been a bulleted list. Most of the production section reads like this. The sentences of a given paragraph should all work towards demonstrating a singular point. This looks like a trivia section that someone removed the bullets from.  Equazcion •✗/C • 18:10, 17 Mar 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - quoting equazcion. MOJSKA   666  (msg) 19:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * I'm not sure we should be linking to http://www.duffzone.org/content.php?title=refshin which looks like a large number of screenshots.
 * What makes this http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/ a reliable source?
 * Looks ok. What the problem? Buc (talk) 13:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Likewise http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F03.html which also has a format error in the footnote.
 * SNPP (The Simpsons Archive) is pretty well-regarded and is used as a source in many books . In matters of the Simpsons, I'd trust it over any scholarly article. Zagalejo^^^ 07:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This returns a "No records match your search criteria" page
 * Fixed Buc (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * All the links checked out fine with the link checking tool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ealdgyth (talk • contribs)

Poorly written throughout, it's basically a list of information combined into a paragraph with no flow between the sections. Example, Homer is yellow. Marge has blue hair. Her hair is tall. Together they have three kids. etc etc M3tal H3ad (talk) 03:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose
 * The film is cuts off,
 * What's your piont?
 * The spelling error
 * mansion in the mountains to apply as caretakers - apply for jobs as caretakers?
 * he cut off the television and beer supply, who cut it off? confusing
 * Mr Burns, it says that.
 * The text is not clear on who says it
 * It says "Mr. Burns cut off the television and beer supply"
 * Because it was fixed after i said it
 * with an an axe
 * him in the back with his axe, as soon as he arrives.
 * I think that's ok.
 * It's redundant
 * How?
 * Bob and Bill entered the recording studio to start production on the album, as soon as they arrived at the recording studio- same concept here, he HAS to arrive to be hit with an axe thus making it redundant, I edited this page, as soon as i arrived in edit mode
 * The whole family sit in the snow to watch with him and eventually freeze., "watch with him"?
 * Err..yeah why?
 * It's poorly written
 * How?
 * It's awkwardly worded, The whole family sit in the snow to watch with him next to him and eventually freeze.
 * He then kills a mosquito
 * Again I think that's ok
 * Redundant
 * How?
 * I then added another edit to this post. I then went to get something to eat after.
 * before returning to the present. In the present - redundant
 * What is
 * Return to the present, then IN the present - same thing, He's in the present, you've told the reader twice
 * Homer eventually arrives
 * David Mirkin tried to put "as much blood and guts" - no need for quotes
 * It's a direct quotes so it's is needed.
 * It doesn't need to be a quote, you can write out the same thing without a quote
 * "It doesn't need to be a quote" Huh? It is a quote, it's not a matter of choice.
 * It doesn't need to be a quote, for example - The band "enjoyed the recording process" - the quotes can be removed to be just - The band enjoyed the recording process, no is no need for a quote here
 * was also in reaction to this. Mirkin also, redundant also
 * One sentence paragraphs
 * I've fixed what I can understand. But some I don't know what your getting at. Buc (talk) 14:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose The sections are way to short.
 * Which one
 * The are alot of prose issues and one sentance paragraphs. I think this probably needs a rewrite. &mdash; Burningclean &#91; Speak the truth! &#93; 07:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Which ones? Buc (talk) 13:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Isn't the name of the short "The Shinning"? indopug (talk) 08:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose Referencing concerns:
 * “The Envelope” reference is a “dead” link (i.e. returns “No records matching your search criteria were found”). Publisher is also incorrect (should be LA Times).
 * Changed link.
 * http://www.noisetosignal.org/about/ – this is a blog.
 * http://www.tvsquad.com – this is a blog
 * Added these facts in. Buc (talk) 14:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * http://media.www.thequindecim.com – a college newspaper; is this reliable? ЭLСОВВОLД  talk 17:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The text addmitts it a college newspaper. Buc (talk) 13:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Identification of the source type(s) in the article prose does not address the concerns. How are these sources reliable, as defined in WP:V and WP:RS?  Why are the opinions of two bloggers and a college newspaper staff notable? Anyone can compile a “personal favorites” or “top 10” list (see WP:SPS); why do these peoples’ opinions matter; what makes them authoritative and/or experts?  ЭLСОВВОLД  talk 15:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose right now Some rework required, particularly with the non-sensical sentences noted above. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * " sixth season, it premiered" - Should that be a full stop?
 * Production section has lots of really short paragraphs.
 * "Time and Punishment" or "Time and punishment"?
 * It's the former -that's the title of the segment- but I think it should be in quotes, rather than italics. Zagalejo^^^ 18:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "They also wrote scenes where Homer is in the past were written so that he is there for the time it takes for a piece of bread to be toasted." this sentence does not make any sense (to me, at least).
 * " Although a book from this scene was use was use in this segment." again, this doesn't make any sense.

Withdrawn see Peer review Buc (talk) 11:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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