Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Trevor Linden


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 17:48, 22 May 2008.

Trevor Linden
While Kaiser matias, and I'm more of an assistant-type editor, we've agreed on starting the FAC process. Linden has near-divine status in British Columbia because of his long career with the Vancouver Canucks. While he has never won the Stanley Cup, he has set numerous records with Canucks' franchise and has been, since he was drafted second overall in 1988, the Canucks' leader, even although he has no worn the captain's C since 1998, when he was traded from Vancouver. Linden rejoined the team in 2001, and while he played the most recent season, he has most likely retired. As for the article itself, the state looks good, I've checked all the tools in the box in the upper right hand corner, and all looks fine, too.  Maxim (talk)  13:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * As a co-nominator, I'll add my piece here. Like stated, Linden is seen as a god in Vancouver, and all of British Columbia. I've spent the last few months greatly expanding the article, and at the urging of Maxim, decided to forgo the GA process and dive straight into here. Kaiser matias (talk) 19:55, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Let me add a couple quick reference notes
 * Current ref 52 has a formatting error. I think you placed a slash instead of a pipe.
 * Fixed. Thanks. :-)
 * I happen to own the American version of NHL Hockey: The Official Fans' Guide (current ref 20), and the page number is different in mine. The 1994 Finals are on page 106 in my version. If it's different in the Canadian version. that's fine. Double-checking the page number wouldn't hurt, though. Giants2008 (talk) 23:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no clue, Kaiser matias has the book, while I don't... probably there's a difference in the versions.  Maxim (talk)  23:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right in regards to the page number. I simply added the total number of pages of the book when adding the reference, as is the case for the other print sources. If it's an issue, I can fix that all up. Kaiser matias (talk) 01:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * When WP:CITE states that page numbers should be given, I do believe they mean specific numbers. I recommend changing them if possible. Giants2008 (talk) 20:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What is the source for the career stats section, and page number issues needs to be sorted. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 00:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Both have been fixed.  Maxim (talk)  01:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Does the career stats need a reference listed with it? After all, the source is listed, in the External links section, stating that it is the career stats for Linden. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:GTL: if a site is used as a source, it doesn't belong in External links.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 15:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Understand now. Added a better reference that is more in depth. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 *  Support. With this laundry list of fixes complete, I'm now ready to Support. I think it's ready now. Thanks for putting up with me. Giants2008 (talk) 18:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * What makes the following reliable sources?
 * http://www.medicinehat.ca/City%20Government/Departments/City%20Clerk/Wall%20of%20Fame/Trevor%20Linden.asp
 * http://www.canadiancyclist.com/default2.html
 * Otherwise sources look okay. Still on the road, so didn't check links. Ealdgyth - Talk 03:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * medicinehat.ca is Medicine Hat's website....-Wafulz (talk) 03:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I gathered that, but what makes a city's hall of fame page reliable for biographical details on a living person? I'm not saying that it is necessarily unreliable, but it's not a normal source to be using for biographical details. Ealdgyth - Talk 03:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Looking at the background section detailing the city Wall of Fame, it says that to nominate a candidate, background information was supplied, and then a member of City Hall interviewd the individual candidates.
 * As for the second source, not being the one adding it, I haven't a clue about it. Kaiser matias (talk) 05:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * We should nix that second source. It's got way too much advertising and doesn't look reliable.-Wafulz (talk) 14:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Looks like it meets the criteria to me now.-Wafulz (talk) 19:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I went through and fixed a couple minor issues (spacing, duplicate links), and centred the text in the career stats tables.  Well written article, and complete. But god those 1980s Canucks jerseys were horrible... Resolute 16:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments: For now, I'll stick to just stating the problems I found:
 * The Order of British Columbia should be put out in it's proper name
 * Please look at other article of winners of things like the Order of Canada, Order of British Columbia. The guideline is to leave it as John Doe, OC, born ...


 * Maybe when you mention his father, Lane, it should be right away mentioned who he was, not in the next sentence.
 * Fixed.


 * And mentioning that his father also had a cattle farm seems rather unimportant.
 * Fixed.


 * Mentioning the other rookie to score 30 goals would be helpful, in Vancouver Canucks, 1988-1998 I think that would be Pavel Bure.
 * I don't get this comment.


 * Switch info about his assists and points in his sophomore year.
 * Don't understand you...


 * I read in the lead that he was made captain at 20, then later in this section at 21; which is it?
 * Damn. There's a bad source, I've removed it; I checked at least 5 others and they all said 21.


 * Division Title, not win, and mention which season.
 * Done.


 * In the New York, Montreal and Washington (1998–2001) section, it says, when traded to Washington,

"...Going with Dainius Zubrus, and New Jersey's 2nd round choice..."

It sounds better with, traded along with.
 * It makes for plain, generic, thus boring prose. I think there should be some variation.


 * Expand a bit on the 2000-01 playoff when Linden went with them to the playoffs for the first time in four years.
 * I don't see anymore details that can be added. His team simply made the playoffs, and it was his first time in four years.

That's all I found so far.

Let me just say though I haven't been with the Canucks for more than six years, I have always found Linden to be one of the best Canuck player there is. I hope he'll stay for another season. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 21:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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