Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tucana/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:Ian Rose 10:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC).

Tucana

 * Nominator(s): Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

The third of the four Southern Birds, it is yet another article which I found had some interesting stuff and I enjoyed improving. I think it is within striking distance of FA standards when compared with other FA constellations. So have at it and let me know what needs fine-tuning.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Images are both appropriately captioned and licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * thanks/cool....finally got an image review completely right from the get-go here.. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:49, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Comments from Cassianto
 * "Tucana is a constellation of stars in the southern sky, created in the late sixteenth century." -- Was the name created in the late sixteenth century or the actual constellation? Would the latter not be millions of years old?
 * All a constellation is is a construct or pattern of stars, it has no inherent existence other than as an address really. So as far as w know, before the late 16th century no-one saw any toucan in those stars.....hence my use of "created"....maybe another verb would suit btter...will sleep on it.a Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:48, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * To me, this reads that the constellation of stars were created in the late 1500s. If I were to offer some alternatives then might I suggest "discovered", "founded" or  "named" or something like that.  --   Cassianto Talk   16:36, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "Founded" or "named" really probably the best. gone with 'named'. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:38, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


 * "Tucana was one of the twelve constellations..." -- Why do we refer to the constellation in the past tense here, but the current in the lead section?
 * Hmm, was thinking past tense because of its creation but changed to present as still current...as are the other 11 Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:45, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I think all introductions should be in the definite article; like here, we have Dutch astronomer Petrus Plancius and Dutch explorers Pieter Dirkszoon Keyser and Frederick de Houtman
 * My shorthand again....added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:45, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Support — That's all I can spot and I found this fairly easy to read. Good work. --  Cassianto Talk   10:57, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Support Comments 
 * Link spectral class, globular cluster, light year, kiloparsec on first use.
 * linked at first use Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Watch for overlinking; this script will identify them in articles if you don't already have it.
 * got 'em Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * No DABs, external links good.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Why the hell was the WikiCup nomination language appearing when I'm only commenting?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:02, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No idea - bot gone crazy Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Support and comments from Jim I'm happy to support, but there are a couple of minor infelicities that could do with tweaking  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  07:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Tucana is a constellation of stars in the southern sky, named in the late sixteenth century. Its name is Latin for the toucan, a South American bird&mdash;run these together for smoother reading and avoidance of repeating "name"?
 * joined Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:17, 7 February 2014 (UTC)


 * They are able to be separated&mdash;"can be"
 * done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:09, 7 February 2014 (UTC)


 * whole Solar Mass from&mdash;lc, methinks (as in the linked article)
 * lower cased Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:11, 7 February 2014 (UTC)


 * ref 2&mdash;this looks as if it should be a note, not a reference, but your call
 * done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:15, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Support: My concerns were addressed. I think the article is ready for FA promotion. 15:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article is in pretty good shape overall. During a read through I just found a few small concerns:


 * "Mostly composed of old, yellow stars, it does possess a contingent of blue stragglers, young stars that are hypothesized to form from binary star mergers." Is it correct to characterize these as "young" stars? I'm not sure that their paired ancestors were necessarily that young.
 * good catch - still echoes of calling these stars "young" from old books - changed to "hot" now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:08, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


 * "Trilling, D. E.; et al." has 'et al' in italics.
 * removed + all authors listed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:24, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The references are inconsistent about the placement of 'et al'. Trilling (2008) has it after one name, Udry (2006) has it after eight, Dumusque (2011) and Marmier (2013) don't have them at all, &c.
 * removed + all authors listed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:24, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The Dumusque reference is missing a date.
 * added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:24, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Praemonitus (talk) 06:18, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 12:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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