Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/U.S. Route 40 Alternate (Keyser's Ridge – Cumberland, Maryland)


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 19:41, 15 November 2008.

U.S. Route 40 Alternate (Keyser's Ridge – Cumberland, Maryland)

 * Nominator(s): Algorerhythms (talk)

Quite a bit of effort has gone into this article, and comments on how it can be improved, hopefully getting it to Featured Article level, would be appreciated. Algorerhythms (talk) 04:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Restart, old nom. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support as per previous FAC. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Article has clearly met FA standards. --Rschen7754 (T C) 08:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Question Can this article be merged with U.S. Route 40 in Maryland? Currently, I do not feel that it is notable enough to warrant its own article. The sources being used for this article do not, in my opinion, satisfy the "significant coverage" aspect of notability. They do not "address the subject in detail". They address other topics and small bits of information are being pulled out of them to assemble this article. Awadewit (talk) 19:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I suppose you can merge them if you really work hard at it and ignore length recommendations for articles. For example, you can merge the article on the Bronx with the article for New York City, although many people would probably prefer the articles separate. Having said that, notability is not one of the featured article criteria. If you feel this topic is not notable, AFD is the proper venue, not here. --Polaron | Talk 20:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I was looking at the AfD page earlier today, preparing to nominate this article for deletion. However, I never venture over to AfD (I don't remember ever having nominated anything for AfD before), so I wanted to make sure that I proceeding properly. One of the suggestions on the page was to merge articles rather than delete them. That seemed reasonable to me, so I started searching for a suitable merge candidate. If there is a better one, please do suggest it. However, if you feel it is impossible to merge this article with any other article on Wikipedia, I will continue learning about AfD and proceed there. Awadewit (talk) 20:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I find nominating a FAC for deletion pretty disrespectful. If you're looking for a SNOW keep, then by all means go ahead and nominate it. --Rschen7754 (T C) 21:09, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have now initiated a discussion on the article's talk page regarding the notability of the article. Again, it is my understanding that one isn't just supposed to nominate something for AfD without first discussing the matter with the article's editors. Awadewit (talk) 16:08, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I haven't looked in detail, but a 1983 MDSHA map is being used to support the statement that it first appeared on that year's map. For that you'd also need a 1982 map (which you hopefully have). I also think the route description needs work; it talks about the summits but doesn't mention what sort of terrain it follows. Is it all up-and-down or do significant portions run through valleys? If the latter, what rivers does it follow? It could also use more early history; I believe it was part of the Braddock Road, which predated the National Road. There's certainly more to say about the National Road too; this should be treated as a subarticle for that article. Why do old bridges remain? Has there been any organized preservation? National Register of Historic Places listings in Maryland lists several sites along US 40 [sic]. --NE2 16:51, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I readded the previous map reference (the closest I've been able to find is a 1980 map), and I've expanded on the terrain and Braddock's Road. There's still more that I haven't finished yet, though, but I think I'll have time this weekend for it. - Algorerhythms (talk) 00:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose . So we don't actually know that it was first on the 1983 map? --NE2 09:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Find me a 1982 MDSHA map and I'll fix it for you. - Algorerhythms (talk) 13:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh... it's your responsibility to make sure your references support what you say. If you don't have a 1982 map, there's no way you can say it first appeared in 1983 without making a wild guess. --NE2 15:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, it's been fixed to say "early 1980s". I'm still worried by how you assumed it was 1983, and that there may be other invalid assumptions in the article. --NE2 19:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per my comments prior to the FAC restart. Also, NE2's oppose can be addressed by simply saying early 1980s instead of a specific date. --Polaron | Talk 14:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments interesting article. I have skimmed over a few of the arguments. I have a question, have any notable events, car accidents etc. happened on the road at all? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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