Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Western Chalukya Empire


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 16:41, 26 March 2007.

Western Chalukya Empire
The article was nominated for peer review two weeks back and did not receive any comments. The article however is fully compatible with recent successful India History FA's. It is well cited, the citations are in the correct format, the format of the sections follows recent India History FA's closely. The Western Chalukyas played an important role in the history of South India in general and Karnataka more specifically, especially in the field of architecture and Kannada literature.Dineshkannambadi 22:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply-->If the question is why they are called Western Chalukyas, this is what many historians call them to differentiate from the contemporeneous Eastern Chalukyas of Vengi. Equally they are called "Kalyani Chalukyas", sometimes "Chalukyas of Kalyani" and only ocassionally "Later Chalukyas". I have differentiated between western and eastern in the lead now.thanksDineshkannambadi 02:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC) reply-->removed parenthesis. working on flow.thanksDineshkannambadi 02:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC) DoneDineshkannambadi 01:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Why Western? Eastern should be differenciated in the lead.
 * Text should not be in parenthesis in the lead. Bad flow
 * The fall of the empire could be expanded. How did they lose out?
 * 8th century etc. would be more readable if spelled out.

DoneDineshkannambadi 00:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Imperial eq to metric would be useful

Corrected terminology of measure. Its grains not grams.sorry. added linkDineshkannambadi 22:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC) DoneDineshkannambadi 01:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC) DoneDineshkannambadi 01:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Done by User:Dwaipayanc.thanksDineshkannambadi 02:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Reply-->not sure what is missing. A pointer would help.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 17:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Tungabhadra river --> River should be in cap, rem link
 * Too much blue: Remove excess linking of common nouns, (leopard) and duplicate links
 * Non-breaking space needs to be used between a number and unit. (&amp;nbsp;) -- See WP:MoS
 * Infobox seems to be missing some data.

DoneDineshkannambadi 01:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Done'Dineshkannambadi 01:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC) =Nichalp  «Talk»=  17:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ramayana, Mahabharata, Bhagavata, Puranas and Vedas. -- rem italics
 * The Balligavi image would look better if moved to ==Notes==

Reply--> I shall look into this tonight.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 21:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comments The "History" section ends with Chalukya dynasty was ended by the Seuna rulers who drove Somesvara IV into exile in 1189. But the infobox tells that Somesvara IV was followed by Veera Ballala II of Hoysala Empire. Did not Seunas rulers become next kings? This portion needs slight clarification.

Reply Good question. When the Western Chalukyas weakened, four empires emerged from their ruins. The Hoysalas, Seunas, Kakatiyas and Southern Kalachuri. There was a time frame between 1150-1185 when the region which is todays northern Karnataka and Southern Maharashtra may have been in flux untill the Kalachuri themselves (having been the earliest to have taken control of Kalyani) vanished into oblivion by 1190.Then the fight for control of this region between the Seuna and Hoysalas continued when the Chalukyas were still around. Each of the four empires were responsible for the down fall of the Western Chalukyas and I should include names of all kings who brought them down. Kakatiya Prolla took Chalukya Tailapa III captive and released him, Hoysala Narasimha I killed Tailapa III little later, the Seuna drove his successor out of Kalyani. The Kalachuri's were the first to draw blood by taking over Kalyani itself in ~1150 for about 20 years. The reason I mentioned only Hoysala Vera Ballala II is because the Hoysalas essentially succceded the the Chalukyas in Karnataka. But the Seunas did control northern Karnataka (north of Krishna river) for significant periods and should be mentioned too. I will take care of this.thanksDineshkannambadi 21:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. I have left out the Kalachuris because they too went into oblivion at the same time as Chalukyas, though they were the first to capture Kalyani.Is that ok?Dineshkannambadi 02:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The Western Chalukyas minted punch-marked gold pagodas with Kannada and Nagari legends... What does Pagoda mean. I thought pagoda means Pagoda! Could not read the whole article, will comment later. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Reply->I shall find a definition for this if I can.thanksDineshkannambadi 21:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply I believe the usage of the term Pagoda came into existance because of the presence of temple like designs on reverse or obverse of the coin. Please see this link for an explanation. The author, Govindaraya Prabhu is a well known numismatist from Karnataka.Dineshkannambadi 22:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment Could not get this - The first song ever written in any Marathi text is in praise of Buddha avatar, in the Sanskrit work Manasollasa. If it a Marathi text, how can it be in the Sanskrit work?--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Reply This info was originally brought in by Admin User:utcursch. What it perhaps means is that some of the poems in the writing Manasollasa may have been the earliest Marathi language poems (songs) written in Sanskrit (Nagari) script. I will read the linked web page in the citation and see if I can bring more clarity. If it is not clear what it means perhaps we should remove this citation.Dineshkannambadi 13:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I believe the Literature section should be used to write only about

great literary classics and poets (a few, given the limited space), important literary developments and traditions.Dineshkannambadi 16:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC) The Manasollasa is a famous Sanskrit language work.Dineshkannambadi 17:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I verified from my sources that Manasollosa is indeed a Sanskrit writing (Sastri 1955, p315), (Kamath 2001, p114), (Thapar 2002, 393) (Dr. Jyotsna Kamat ). In the citation#84, Dhere may have been refereing to a poem(s) in this otherwise Sanskrit literature.Dineshkannambadi 21:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Question Shall I rename this article "Western Chalukya Empire"?Dineshkannambadi 21:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * reply IMO Western Chalukya empire is better, because it is more clear. --Dwaipayan (talk) 11:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * reply If I just made the name change with the "move" option, how would that effect the FA nomination. I guess I would have to go to FA:WAC and change the name there too, right?Dineshkannambadi 22:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just make sure that the link in the title points to the correct article title. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  13:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Support - Well sourced, interesting, whatever minor errors may be present are those we can safely assume will be taken care of by Mr. Kannambadi. Baka man  02:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support =Nichalp   «Talk»=  13:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Very good article Tomer T 13:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Excellent article, very well written and well sourced. The flow has been impressive. - KNM Talk 21:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Concerns were properly addressed.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment It would be much easier to locate a specific source if they were alphabetical by last name. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong support Fantastic work. Sarvagnya 10:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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