Wikipedia:Featured article review/Able Archer 83/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed by YellowAssessmentMonkey 01:05, 22 June 2009.

Review commentary

 * MilHist WikiProject and TomStar81 notified.

Article was promoted in 2006 with weak support. I have tried to fix a number of its deficiences, but feel it still falls way short of the required standard. My primary concern is around its coverage of the relevant material; my reasons are listed in more detail on the talk page. Socrates2008 ( Talk  )   09:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to temporarily hold this good-faith FAR since TomStar81 is on a brief wikibreak for end-of-semester exams? (His notice on his user page says he will be out until 15 May.) Tom is very conscientious about whether older FAs meet newer, more strict requirements, having personally nominated several articles he was involved with for FAR. I know that Tom won't have a problem with an FAR in general, but I echo thoughts on the WikiProject Military history discussion page, that the timing of this FAR could be seen as unfair. Many thanks for the consideration. — Bellhalla (talk) 11:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note - no objections from me  Socrates2008 (  Talk  )   11:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I AM NOT BACK YET, but I am taking a little me time to unwind before finals start, and that leads me to this page. I am aware that this is an older FA, and that my name appears as the FAC man, but it should be noted here that I am not the one who worked on bringing the page up to FA standards, that would be, who at the time was thought to have left. then asked if someone would be willing to help the article get to FA, and I volunteered. I am opent o the concept of the FAR/C to improve the article, but I want to make it clear before we start that I am unfamilar with just about everything in the article, so this one will be a greater challenge for me to improve since I am starting with one hand tied behind my back. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm afraid I can't be much help here... good luck! Melchoir (talk) 05:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'm back, so lets do this thing! :) I need to know what needs addressed specifically, I'm going to venture a guess that the citations and such need updating, but specifical examples of what needs done would be apreicated. This moves to the top of my wiki-priorty list, so expect me to be watching this until the FAR concludes or until the FARC concludes, which ever happens last. TomStar81 (Talk) 07:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Cool - please take a look at the talk page of the article for initial details. Thanks   Socrates2008 (  Talk  )   09:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

After trying my best to locate the books and other sources cited in the references section I have unfortunately come up largely empty handed, so I think at this point the best option is going to be to simply start from scratch and see where that leads me. You should start seeing some improvement sometime in the next seven days, although it may be touch and go for a while becuase I am still trying to get a few RL issues in order. It goes without saying though that I am thankful for the patients everyone has shown during the FAR. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll do my best to help.  Socrates2008 (  Talk  )   00:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

FARC commentary

 * Suggested FA criteria concerns are citations and comprehensiveness. Joelito (talk) 23:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delist With everything else going on here at the moment I haven't had time to dive into this like I had hoped. Better it should be delisted then remain an FA in its condition. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delist, per FA criteria concerns. Cirt (talk) 11:13, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
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