Wikipedia:Featured article review/Ben Gurion International Airport


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed by YellowAssessmentMonkey 00:30, 12 May 2009.

Review commentary

 * Notified: WP Tel Aviv, WP Aviation, WP Israel, Flymeoutofhere, Cccc3333

This article obviously has many issues which have developed since it first got FA status. There are huge unsourced chunks of the article, baffling sentences such as "Grade 2 is shared by such countries as India and Thailand (Wrong Information: India and Thailand both share Grade 1 [6]).[citation needed]" and sections that should be prose rather than lists. My main concerns are the references and these factual oddities. I don't think the article would even scrape in as a GA. This article needs serious attention to stay a featured article. Mvjs Talking  10:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi can you post the FAR notifications at the top please? Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) 04:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I will help. The Wurdulak (talk) 20:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What happened to the Grade 2 sentence? We have to explain what Grade 2 means. The Wurdulak (talk) 20:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Grades are for the aviation safety. There has to be something about its avaiation safety going down. Can't we say more about avaiation safety and grades? The Wurdalak (talk) 15:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say "safety rating" because I read "The FAA cited "severe security shortcomings in Israel's Civil Aviation Authority" and a range of security defects at Ben Gurion International Airport as its reason for the downgrade of the safety rating. Aviation experts have warned that the FAA's lowering of Israel's security ranking would adversely affect the image of Israel-based airlines in the US and Europe, as well as their profitability." The Wurdalak (talk) 15:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A survey by UK airline airport rating company Skytrax listed Ben Gurion as the best airport in the Middle East, ahead of airports in Bahrain and Doha. The survey looked at the quality and range of services, however, it did not address issues relating to flight and airport safety. Ben Gurion Airport has faced withering criticism of late over its safety record. A Knesset committee approved a series of measures to improve safety at the airport, chief of which is the building of a new control tower. The Wurdalak (talk) 16:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To put in context in Time magazine in 2001 it says "Ben Gurion Airport, near Tel Aviv, Israel's only international airport, has an enviable record." The Wurdalak (talk) 16:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The AP's said "The directors, representing airports from California to Florida, inspected at the security arrangements at Ben Gurion International Airport near Tel Aviv, where safety concerns affect the design of everything from windows to trash bins. No successful hijacking has occurred on a plane leaving the airport, and no attack has taken place inside the terminal since the 1970s, although Israel and planes entering and leaving the country are prime targets for Islamic extremists." The Wurdalak (talk) 16:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * One article in the Jerusalem Post is all about Ben Gurion airport. "Stereotyping security" has a lot about people feeling harassed by the measures taken for Ben Gurion's aviation safety. The Wurdalak (talk) 16:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So I think Security should be explored in more detail. One of the most important aspects of the airport is its exceptional security. The fact that there have been some recent problems needs to have a context. In the 1970s it had problems too. The Wurdalak (talk) 23:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In 1975 a bomb plot at Ben Gurion Int'l airport was foiled. Read "Bomb plot foiled at Ben Gurion airport" by Moshe Brilliant, The Times, Saturday, July 19, 1975.The Wurdalak (talk) 00:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Images
 * I don't follow the rationale for the licensing of File:LyddaAirport.jpg. Even if it is public domain in Israel, it needs to be public domain in the States to be on commons. DrKiernan (talk) 15:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

FARC commentary

 * Suggested FA criteria concern is citations and coverage. Also note the recent change to WP:WIAFA (1c) requiring "high-quality" sources.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! '') 02:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delist, per FA criteria concerns, referencing issues, and image issues as noted above. Cirt (talk) 08:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delist This needs a lot of work. Most problematic are the many bits without citations, especially the 'Scheduled Route Development and Changes' section (which is proseline, too) and the 'Airlines and destinations' section, which needs to meet WP:NOTDIR. There are also MOS/layout problems, including: extremely repetitive wikilinks (El Al is linked 12 times); date formatting errors (inconsistent style); redundant See also links (all but 1 are already linked in the article); and citation formatting errors (publications should be in italics). Maralia (talk) 02:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delisted because of proseline, some unsourced, some poor quality and unformatted references  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) 00:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delist per nom. Not to mention WP:CRYSTAL for Scheduled Route Development and Changes which has no references. I have no idea on the area, so unless somebody wants to work on it, I'll have to agree with the Delist arguments --Arnzy  10:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
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