Wikipedia:Featured article review/Dayuan/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed 10:05, 30 May 2007.

Review commentary

 * Messages left at User talk:194.73.130.132, China, Ethnic groups and Former countries. LuciferMorgan 14:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

This is an article about a Greco-Bactrian civilization recorded by Chinese scholars 2000 years ago. It was featured in 2005 but does not meet our current criteria.

-- Nydas (Talk) 10:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Most of the references are from the Records of the Grand Historian, an ancient Chinese text, with only a smattering of more recent stuff. Consequently, most of the article is about the Chinese POV.
 * Aside from the map and the Chinese lettering, most of the pictures have been borrowed from elsewhere, and only vaguely relate to the topic.
 * The lack of focus continues into the text, with excessive description of Greco-Bactria and the Silk Road.
 * There are hints at controversy, for example 'The country of Dayuan is generally accepted as relating to the Ferghana Valley.' Does this mean that there are people who think it wasn't? Is there any archaeological evidence?
 * Fundamentally, the article fails to answer the question: Who were the Dayuan people?
 * Comments
 * The current map needs work. A map such as this is the first thing a read will look at, and at the moment it is hard to follow - my first impression of the map was that Ta-Yuan was simply the name of a city.
 * Not enough other references, and citation not correctly done within the text.
 * Agree with above post - the article does not clearly say what/who the Dayuan are. Appears to half portray the Dayuan as a nation, and half as an ethnic group.
 * What happened after the first century? - 52 Pickup 20:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

FARC commentary

 * Suggested FA criteria concerns are comprehensiveness (1b), sufficiency of references (1a), image (3). Marskell 06:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delist. I know I'm supposed to help fix up the article as much as possible, but my knowledge about this subject does not extend very far. The muddled nature of the article makes it difficult to fix in any case.-- Nydas (Talk) 08:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delist. Too muddled. Needs a bit of work. - 52 Pickup 21:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delist Not comprehensive. Note that it does not conform with WikiProject Ethnic Groups' article topics template. Also, no inline citations. -Fsotrain09 21:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove per 1c. LuciferMorgan 13:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.