Wikipedia:Featured article review/Elliott Smith/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 7:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC).

Elliott Smith

 * Notified: WT:WPMUSIC, User:DannyMusicEditor

Review section
Following issues raised on talk page:


 * "The instrumentation of the recordings was primarily acoustic guitar..." -- unsourced
 * "The same year, Smith released a split 7" single with Pete Krebs..." -- unsourced
 * "1995–97: Elliott Smith and Either/Or" has several unsourced sections.
 * "Smith's backing band during most of this period was the Portland-based group Quasi..." -- unsourced
 * "2001-02" subheader has several [citation needed] tags
 * There are overall huge chunks of unsourced content throughout.
 * Reference 7 ("Bitcandy") is broken and redirects to a different site.

There are also maintenance tags all over the place. was in agreement, but no one else said anything on the talk page.

This article was an FA in 2007, and a lot has changed since. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Move to FARC. Tagged for unsourced statements, failed verification and original research since April 2017. Not maintained and no-one working on it. Original nominator only editing very intermittently. DrKay (talk) 14:05, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Move to FARC: I hate to agree to this, as I'm a fan of Smith's work, but there are so many unsourced or badly sourced statements here that the whole article needs going through from top to bottom. Just to give one example – one unsourced sentence from the "2001–02: Addiction and scrapped recordings" section states, "[David] McConnell told Spin that, during this time, Smith would smoke over $1,500 worth of heroin and crack per day, would often talk about suicide, and on numerous occasions tried to give himself an overdose". Here is the link to that Spin article and McConnell's statement – we can clearly see that the claim of the $1,500 drug habit has come from the article author, not McConnell, and that the claims that Smith would "often" talk about suicide and tried overdosing "numerous times" are original research. Given the amount of OR in just this one sentence, the whole article needs a thorough revision, and it's going to take a while – many of the unsourced statements aren't going to be as easy to track down as that Spin one. Richard3120 (talk) 22:01, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Move to FARC. Ditto everything that's already been said. I put in most of the tags that currently remain on it. My interest in Wikipedia has been diminishing recently; that aside, I never really had an interest in Smith, just was surprised to see this trainwreck bear the star after I had been working on Fightstar (they claim him as an influence, believe it or not), so I'm certainly not the one to fix this article, even if tracking the references was easy.  danny music editor  oops 04:33, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

FARC section

 * Issues raised in the review section mostly focused on sourcing. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delist as nominator, and per the consensus above. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delist per my above rationale.  danny music editor  oops 00:55, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delist per comments in the review section. DrKay (talk) 12:55, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Nikkimaria (talk) 17:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.