Wikipedia:Featured article review/Gilberto Silva/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 0:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC).

Gilberto Silva

 * Notified: GilbertoSilvaFan, Chensiyuan, WP Brazil sports, WP Bio sport, WP Football Aresnal

Review section
This is a 2006 promotion with a signficant list of issues raised on talk that has gotten no response since May. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  02:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

The main issue I found in this article that led me to write the talk page FAR notice is that there are many citations that do not support the content they should.
 * Review by RetiredDuke

Just as an example, "In his second season, he was moved by the manager Carlos Alberto Parreira from central defence to a defensive midfield role where he flourished. He scored three goals in the 2001 season and became a revelation in Brazilian club football." - The source, says only that he is "One of Brazilian football's biggest revelations last year after joining Atletico Mineiro from their smaller rivals America where he was raised. A mainly defensive midfielder but he has good technique and passing." So it does not mention being moved by the manager and flourishing in the new position. Or scoring 3 goals in 2001. There are many such examples in the talk page notice that Sandy has linked to. Basically, it's a problem of verification and also a lack of citations in many other places.

At the time, I only reviewed until the end of the third paragraph of the Arsenal section. That's not even half of the article and turned up all those inconsistencies. To add to the verification problem, I also find that the time Silva has spent in Panathinaikos, Grêmio	and Atlético Mineiro is not sufficiently fleshed out in the article, especially when we compare those sections with the Arsenal section, that describes his every step in (sometimes excessive) detail. Similarly, his performance in the World Cup that Brazil won, where he "featured prominently" and that earned him a transfer to Arsenal is glossed out in the transition between clubs. Then, the "Outside football" section seems a bit weak, just a collection of interesting tidbits in short, stubby sentences. In my opinion, the article does not meet the FA criteria at the moment. RetiredDuke (talk) 20:35, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Move to FARC – Along with the issues raised above, there are a couple of sentences tagged as needed references, as well as a couple of untagged areas that appear to be missing cites. Overall, a good deal of work will be required to get this one back up to the FA standards. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 01:12, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

FARC section

 * Issues raised in the review section include sourcing and organization. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:58, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Nikkimaria (talk) 20:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delist, there has been a small bit of improvement, but there are still unsourced statements, organization problems, and anywhere one looks, poor prose is found (Despite Gilberto's high pass completion rate,[104] his passing has been described as erratic in the past. ... by whom? A paragraph that begins with: He has an animal named after him ... and doesn't get better ... etc).  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  20:01, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delist references still don't match the text, unreferenced at times, final stages of his career not expanded enough, "Outside football" section is not FA-level, some references not correctly formatted. Needs a complete overhaul to meet current FA standards. RetiredDuke (talk) 15:42, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delist - issues with prose and references not matching the text Spiderone  21:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
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