Wikipedia:Featured article review/Habsburg Spain/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed 16:08, 1 July 2007.

Review commentary

 * Messages left at DanielNuyu and WikiProject Spain.

Completely lacks citations to support facts (except for one inline external link, itself not listed under "References") so fails to meet 1(c). The list of references is very long but it's not clear which statements are supported by which book, let alone where in that book. This is an old FA (May 2005) which may explain the lack of citations. Purgatorio 14:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, this is a mess. The first two sections are sprinkled with subtle but significant errors:
 * "Spanish soldiers distinguished themselves on the field alongside their French allies at the Battle of Agnadello" - no Spanish troops were present at the battle
 * "seeing a chance at taking both Naples" - Spain had already seized Naples nearly a decade earlier, during the Italian War of 1499-1504
 * "in 1516, France agreed to a truce that left Milan under French control and recognized Spanish hegemony in northern Navarre" - this took place after Ferdinand died
 * "In 1521, Francis invaded the Spanish possessions in Italy" - actually, Spain (and the Papacy) invaded French possessions in Italy
 * "In 1527, due to Charles' inability to pay them sufficiently his armies in Northern Italy mutineed and sacked Rome itself for loot" - this is an over-simplified explanation of the sack, at best
 * I can't speak for the rest of the article, but this needs actual fact-checking, rather than just insertion of citations for the material present. Kirill Lokshin 19:39, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Kirill; this is a really useful review. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

FARC commentary

 * Suggested FA criteria concern is factual accuracy (1c). Marskell 17:48, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Remove per 1c. LuciferMorgan 01:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove per 1c. Jay32183 03:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove per 1c. Article is all over the place. Says that Clement VII was cowed by Charles V after the sack of Rome. So why did he agree an offensive alliance with Francis I of France in 1533, sealed by marrying his kinswoman Catherine de' Medici to Francis's son Henri, attending the wedding in Marseilles himself? Repeated omission of such inconvenient details creates a simplified picture. Perhaps the scope of the article is too big.qp10qp 15:12, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
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