Wikipedia:Featured article review/Himno Nacional Mexicano/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed by YellowAssessmentMonkey 02:58, 24 March 2010.

Review commentary

 * Notified: WikiProject Mexico, User:Zscout370. For once I've found a FA where the major contributor hasn't retired millennia ago.

I am nominating this featured article for review because I think this article fails three criteria of WP:WIAFA.

1c.
 * "National Regulations" has no sources whatsoever.
 * Not one source is formatted properly. None credits its author, nor are citation templates used.
 * Please note that citation templates are not required. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Only 16 sources overall feels a bit thin for a national anthem.
 * Ref 1 doesn't load for me, but through a Google cache, it doesn't seem to be a reputable website.
 * Refs 3, 5, 10, 11 and 16 are all dead.
 * Refs 4 and 6 should indicate that they are a Wayback Machine archive.
 * Ref 12 is indeed an AP article, but it appears to be hosted on a personal website.
 * Ref 15 looks to be hosted on a personal website as well.

2b.
 * Bare URL to Spanish Wikipedia in the text.
 * Musical score is in a gallery at the bottom and would probably better suited inline.

2c.
 * Ref 1 doesn't have a date. As mentioned, most refs don't credit the author.

Overall, the article needs a major overhaul, especially in the referencing department. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 02:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I remember writing this years ago (2006, at least). Yeah, this really needs a lot of work and I know my Spanish has become a little rusty. I would not be surprised if some of the links are actually dead. We got more resources at our disposal now, so I will try and do what I can to make it back to a good and decent FA. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment. Please add alt text to images; see WP:ALT. Eubulides (talk) 07:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That can be done. Alt text wasn't around when the article was made and put to FA. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Media review
 * File:Himno Nacional Mexicano music sheet cover.jpg: I'm not entirely clear on the license tag. If this cover design was published after 1943, then the current license wouldn't apply.
 * File:Francisco Gonzalez Bocanegra.jpg and File:Jaime Nuno.jpg: there's no evidence of first publication; PD-US applies to images published before 1923, not created before then.
 * File:Himno Nacional Mexicano XEJTV 2006.jpg: doesn't have a fair-use rationale. Is it necessary to use this image?
 * File:Himno nacional mexicano coral.ogg: is it now confirmed that works by the Mexican federal government are public domain? I couldn't find the discussion resolved anywhere. DrKiernan (talk) 15:22, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Deleted imaged 1, 4 and 5: I will be in the process of trying to confirm a few things. Bocanegra died in 1861 and Nuno died in 1908, so it should be PD-old anyways. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 17:47, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


 * FARC it I don't have the will to fix this. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Endorse move to FARC per above. WP:MEXICO isn't helping poor Zscout any, and it would take a lot of manpower to fix this up. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

FARC commentary

 * Featured article criterion of concern are reliable sources, citations  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll '')  05:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delist per Zscout370. Article needs a major rewrite and source overhaul, and even after quite some time there isn't a single person clamoring to try and fix it up. He, yellow and I are literally the only people to touch this FAR, which I think is indicative of... apathy? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delist - little work has been done to correct the above issues. The main editor has stepped back from the FAR and the associated wikiprojects are not stepping up to help, so further improvement seems unlikely at this point. Dana boomer (talk) 00:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delist, per Dana boomer's analysis. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 12:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delist. The main author itself recognises it has to be. OboeCrack (talk) 23:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.