Wikipedia:Featured article review/Iranian peoples/archive1

Iranian peoples

 * Article is still a featured article

From a look at the recent history of the article, and its talk page, the article can be seen not to be stable, its neutrality being disputed on various issues (notably of religious and ethnic nature), and not being well-sourced, since the introduction of the article cites sources which after careful evaluation, do not supoort its content. This article thus does not meet the criteria of either a good or a featured article, and should be removed from the list or edited accordingly. Shervink 16:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)shervink


 * Keep just because one user disputes it doesn't mean it's "unstable". &mdash; Khoikhoi 16:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep but improve I believe Shervink's concern is true to a certain extent that intro needs better referencing in order to support the subject matter and make the article more stable, but it remains of good quality. --K a s h Talk 23:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep There's no reason to dispute the neutrality of the article, and obvious POV of including Turkic Azeris as Iranian people cannot be considered a good reason. Grandmaster 06:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Please. This period isn't meant for keep/remove comments. Please try to point out things that need editing etc. Marskell 08:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The article's main improvement should be to clarify the wording rather than references. And I would like to reiterate that the complaints are coming from one user Shervink who consistently seeks to inject his own POV regarding the Azeris as an Iranian people, which is simply not supported by references. So on the one hand we have a demand for better sources to support the definition of the Iranian peoples (not needed as each reference explains who they are even if in piecemeal form as in ancients to modern), whereas a veritable landslide of sources define the Azeris as a Turkic people in comparison to an editorial and a cultural definition of the Azeris as having a lot of Persian cultural traits (which I agree with). The wording insisted upon with the Azeris is that some sources support them as an Iranian people (really only one editorial that I've seen as the other reference is to their Persian culture) and that some support them as a Turkic people (which in reality should read that most sources define them as a Turkic people which I've proven with references and can produce many more if needed). As for improvements to the article, more info. on the impact of Islam might be needed which is something I'm figuring out how to incorporate and the history and settlement section will have to be given subsections which is also something I will try to work out as well. Tombseye 18:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve Article needs a modest expansion and some infinitesimal modification. Amir85 16:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Please note: Major reviews do not concern declarations to keep or remove. Tony 12:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Status. I'm tempted to close this one without the FARC period. It certainly looks stable now and the nom appears frankly "pointish". Well-referenced and a very recent FA (our 1000th). Any new comments before closure? Marskell 09:21, 30 June 2006 (UTC)