Wikipedia:Featured article review/Kākāpō/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 3:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC).

Kākāpō

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Review section
This 2004 FA promotion (before inline citations were required) was reviewed at FAR in 2007 (before standards improved). It's FAC nominator has not edited since 2006, and the article has not been maintained to standard; it has 16 citation needed tags. The talk page notice from last December indicates that a thorough review of sourcing is in order, and datedness should be checked. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  17:39, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Dubious sourcing in the Timeline section (which also needs to be better written). Sandy Georgia (Talk)  12:27, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Reliance on news sources when journal reports are available. Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  12:44, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Further reading is out of control (why aren't those used as sources). Sandy Georgia (Talk)  12:44, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * There is no consistent citation style. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  12:44, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * External links need pruning. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  12:45, 11 June 2023 (UTC) Done, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  11:50, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

It is hard to find a section with prose and flow at FA standards. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  12:46, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Prose issues are easily spotted everywhere; samples: Sandy Georgia (Talk)  12:46, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The meat of kākāpō made good eating and was considered by Māori to be a delicacy[58] and it was hunted for food when it was still widespread.[97] -->The Māori considered the meat of kākāpō a delicacy[58] and, when the bird was widespread, hunted it for food.[97]
 * Also taken by the Māori were the bird's eggs, which are described as whitish "but not pure white", and about the same size as a kererū egg.[96] --> Why are the eggs not described elsewhere in the article, then --> The Māori also used the bird's eggs for food.[96]
 * As well as eating the meat of the kākāpō, Māori would use kākāpō skins with the feathers still attached or individually weave in kākāpō feathers with flax fibre to create cloaks and capes.
 * Not only were these garments considered very beautiful, they also kept the wearer very warm.[97][100] They were highly valued, and the few still in existence today are considered taonga (treasures), so much so that the old Māori adage "You have a kākāpō cape and you still complain of the cold" was used to describe someone who is never satisfied.[97] Kākāpō feathers were also used to decorate the heads of taiaha, but were removed before use in combat. (Count the alsos and the redundant very and run-on sentence.)
 * Flow and organization issues: as a sample, look at the Supplementary feeding section, which has relevant information about a lot more than supplementary feeding.


 * I see you have done a lot of work here, but there is still considerable uncited text. Is it your intent to attempt to restore the article to Featured status, or should we proceed to FARC? Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  03:00, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd be keen to try and help out where I can to keep the article at Featured, but I haven't done something like this before and may not have time to do the whole thing myself if there are other interested editors. Turnagra (talk) 04:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I intend to work a little more on the article and add some citations. I'll also try to replace some of the unsuitable references. But this article is a very long way from the current FA standard and I'm not sufficiently interested in this particular parrot to spend the amount of time needed to bring the article up to the required level. - Aa77zz (talk) 14:28, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you; that is as I feared, so Move to FARC. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  14:50, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to FARC per above. Hog Farm Talk 19:33, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

FARC section

 * Issues raised in the review section include sourcing, currency and prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:07, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

I see in the article history that you worked on updating this article. Are you interested in addressing the article's concerns? Z1720 (talk) 02:27, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delist - sourcing needs additional work yet. Hog Farm Talk 01:29, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delist, some improvement but not to FA standard ( Aa77zz already answered that question above). Sandy Georgia (Talk)  02:41, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Nikkimaria (talk) 03:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delist per above, and sourcing concerns. Z1720 (talk) 02:45, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delist to commence the process of bringing the article up to modern FA standards. Arlo James Barnes 20:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.