Wikipedia:Featured article review/The Old Man and the Sea/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed 07:09, 8 November 2007.

Review commentary

 * User:DanielNuyu‎, WikiProject Books‎, WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum‎ notified.

This was a nice article for the time at its promotion in early 2005. But as Wiki-standards climbed toward the heavens, this page slowly rotted into the earth. The article is no longer well-written (1a), was never well-cited (1c), and is not particularly neutral (1d) in that it contains a bizarre personal essay on symbolism of character. I would love to fix the Hemingway pages some day, but it's a massive task — consider the trainwreck that is Ernest Hemingway — and for a topic of his importance, I'd need several months to do the background reading and research, or be part of a team of contributors. In the mean time, unless a Lost Generation expert is handy, I'm afraid this article is hopeless. --JayHenry 05:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't believe this is quite as bad as you suggest. Yes the OR on the symbolism of character needs substantial revision or citation support. Also there could easily be more referencing for such an importance 20thC work. However if this needs a de-listing from FA to achieve the necessary improvements then so be it. :: Kevinalewis  : (Talk Page) /(Desk)  08:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

FARC commentary

 * Suggested FA criteria concerns are prose (1a), citations (1c), and neutrality (1d). Marskell 19:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Remove per 1c. LuciferMorgan 00:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Multiple issues here. Not comprehensive, OR, prose, unsourced statements, badly organised, listy, over linked, an insufficient lead, MOS, stubby trivial paras. Remove. Ceoil 21:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Remove - sorry - has been here for a while but still falls short - issues with (1a) prose needs good copyedit, and (1c) citations, but there is the big OR tag that has been there since September. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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