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Tropical Storm Erick (2007)

 * Notified: Tropical cyclone Wikiproject, Juliancolton

I have a bad feeling this might get dramatic, but I hope that cool heads can prevail. This article was promoted in 2008, but has since been one of the shortest featured articles on Wikipedia. It has gotten shorter since its time of promotion, due to differing standards in the tropical cyclone wikiproject over what content should be in every article. Namely, the accumulated cyclone energy bit was removed, due to the stat being only used primarily for entire years. Additionally, the information on non-retirement was removed, due to the consensus that it was trivia when it indicated that a storm name was not retired. After all, one could list an endless things that a storm did not do, such as a storm not killing a celebrity, or a storm not causing the global financial system to collapse :P

As for why this is an FARC and not an AFD, well, the article wouldn't be deleted. It would merely be merged. However, I'll mention what I've mentioned before how it is highly debatable whether it meets the notability criteria. Long story short, there is debate whether the article has sufficiently reliable independent sources. All (but one) of the sources have their information stem from the National Hurricane Center (including all of the news sources in the article, which get their info straight from the NHC). The only one that doesn't is the one from the Honolulu National Weather Service, which basically said that the storm did nothing.

In all, we have a storm here that lasted for 30 hours that didn't affect land. It's a sub-article of a season in which not that much happened. I'd like a review of this featured article, with the mindset that it can easily be merged to the season article. Since there's no proper place on Wikipedia for mergers, I thought this would suffice. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:48, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * To emphasize, my problem would be 1c, since it is impossible that a storm this non-notable would have the proper research for a featured article. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:49, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, these merge concerns have been brought up on the talk page before. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:12, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

*Support - I am quite frankly surprised it attained featured article status given how little impact there was. I support a merge...Anything in the article can be placed just as easily in its own little section on the 2007 Atlantic hurricane season. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:54, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Super Strong Keep is there anything actionable that can be done? There is no size limit for FAC's. How is it a sub-aritlce of the season? Storms are physical entries, seasons are not. What harm is Erick 07 doing? YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * Because it had very little impact YE..This is a page notice on the 2011 Atlantic hurricane season:

Please read: Before creating articles on individual tropical cyclones, please ensure that it is necessary; information regarding current non-impacting storms may be suited better at Wikinews. Also, do not add any changes to the article until they are official from the NHC - that is, it is issued in the newest advisory or tropical cyclone update.

Is Erick really notable? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 03:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)


 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  03:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Delegate note - the required notification at the article talk page was not done prior to initiation of this nomination; thus, I have copied the nominator's comments to article talk and placed this nomination on hold. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:18, 8 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delist and merge – per hink. Not notable.  HurricaneFan 25  18:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This nominations is on hold so I don't think your !vote will count.YE  Pacific   Hurricane  18:49, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, I'll respond there. BTW, do you know where JC is now? He hasn't edited for a week now.  HurricaneFan 25  19:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * He's been on IRC during the past week. He's stated that he would not argue over this article on-wiki.YE  Pacific   Hurricane  23:12, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delist and merge - per Hurricanehink. I agree and believe that this article scrapes the "bottom of the barrel" in terms of notability.--12george1 (talk) 03:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delist and merge it is not clear to me how a natural phenomenon with no impact on society, and no apparent record breaking events and no notable history can deserve a separate article. If applying similar standards, then every known chemical substance would deserve an article. Nergaal (talk) 18:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Was this FAR ever closed? Nergaal (talk) 02:37, 24 January 2013 (UTC)