Wikipedia:Featured article review/Whitstable/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed by YellowAssessmentMonkey 02:27, 21 August 2009.

Review commentary
Notified Epbr123 major contibutor and nominator.

I have read this article a couple of times, and have each time been disconcerted by some of the inaccurate claims, such as Whitstable having the world's first passenger railway. I have also felt that aspects of the town have been left out (such as Tankerton/Whitstable Castle), and that the prose was rather hurried and choppy. The history comes in rushed bullet points (By 1413, the three manors had combined, forming the Whitstaple manor, and had been sold to a religious foundation in Essex. In the 1500s, the manor was seized by King Henry VIII during his suppression of the church, and was given back to the nobility. In 1574, a Royal Patent was granted to the manor owner for the fishing of its oyster beds. In the same year, the lands at Tankerton were incorporated into the manor. A copperas works was established at Tankerton in 1588 which operated until about 1830.[5] By 1610, the name Whitstaple had become Whitstable.) and largely ends in 1793, whereupon we get the history of the railway company rather than the town. I note that there are a couple of comments left on the talk page with similar concerns.

So I feel the article fails:

1 (a) as it is not well-written

1 (b) as it is not comprehensive

1 (c) as there are sections unreferenced, and the bulk of the railway claims are sourced to a fan site - http://www.crabandwinkle.org/About_us.htm

I had considered tidying it up, but I feel there is too much work to be done in the history section to hold my time.  SilkTork  *YES! 21:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment. Images (including infobox image) need alt text as per WP:ALT. Eubulides (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment. Article some copy editing/cleanup. For example, under "Education":
 * there are six external links in the body of the article to Community College Whitstable''
 * "Canterbury College @ Whitstable is a branch of Canterbury College in Whitstable town centre which provides a range of short information technology courses to adults."
 * "The Community College Whitstable will be starting their school rebuild as part of the Building Schools for the Future program as part of the Governments plan to rebuild all secondary schools in the United Kingdom within the next ten years." (next ten years from when?) (This is also an example of the generally poor prose.)
 * Question: Do the references cover the 1c requirement, as most seem to be government and news websites? All the historical references are referenced by a time line provided by the city council website. Is it not possible to reference the work of historians?
 * Also, references need updating, as many were 404 errors. &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 16:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment. Images need alt text as per WP:ALT. Eubulides (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

FARC commentary

 * Suggested FA criteria concern are citations, reliable sources, comprehensiveness, quality of research, alt text. Also note the recent change to WP:WIAFA (1c) requiring "high-quality" sources. FAQ?  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! '') paid editing=POV 02:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delist per FA criteria concerns. Cirt (talk) 11:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delist per above concerns. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
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