Wikipedia:Featured article review/Youngstown, Ohio/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was delisted by DrKay via FACBot (talk) 7:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Youngstown, Ohio

 * Notified: Daysleeper47, WikiProject Cities, WikiProject Ohio, WikiProject United States, Dec 2020

Review section
I am nominating this featured article for review because almost two months ago, Hog Farm noted that "There is unsourced content throughout, a couple of the web sources are dodgy, there are many formatting errors in the referencing, and some of the history and culture material appears to be a bit outdated or missing recent events." There has not been progress in fixing these issues in the interim. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  19:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Here are my findings...


 * Prose
 * 1) "The city had the prestige of a prestige, albeit second tier, city within the Mid-West in terms of transportation connections." -- unencyclopedic tone, improper spelling of "Midwest". Also this paragraph is unsourced until the very end, where six footnotes are all bunched up in a row, making it unclear what is being cited to what.
 * 2) "In 2004, construction began on a 60-home upscale development called Arlington Heights..." -- entire paragraph is unsourced
 * 3) Neighborhoods section has a lot of redlinks. This doesn't seem like it needs to be there, since most of them are unsourced and the rest do not have articles.
 * 4) "Extensive coverage of Youngstown's economic challenges has overshadowed the city's long entrepreneurial tradition. A number of products and enterprises introduced in Youngstown became national household names." -- unencyclopedic tone
 * 5) "Entertainment" section is unsourced
 * 6) "To the immediate north of YSU is the Arms Family Museum of Local History." -- paragraph is unsourced and seems irrelevant
 * 7) "Mill Creek Park encompasses approximately 2,600 acres..." -- unsourced
 * 8) "Hockey" -- why is there a table here if it only has one entry? Get rid of it.
 * 9) "Boxing" section seems to be of dubious relevance
 * 10) "Other newspapers that print in Youngstown include bi-monthly..." -- unsourced


 * References
 * 1) Multiple newspaper sources do not cite the page number(s) or are otherwise incomplete
 * 2) Citation 1 is a bare URL
 * 3) Citation 4 (Census.gov) does not credit the work
 * 4) Citation 6 (Ohio Hometown Locator) does not seem to be a reliable source
 * 5) Citation 21 (Naco.org) does not seem to be reliable either
 * 6) Citations 41 and 42 have bare URLs
 * 7) Much of the "Culture" heading is heavily reliant on WP:PRIMARY sources. A few other sections have this issue as well

So yeah, this one needs a lot. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Move to FARC, there has been considerable cleanup, but this article is still a mess. The word “recent” occurs ten times, no date given, there is uncited text, and the neighborhoods section is nothing but a list. Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  19:44, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

FARC section

 * Issues raised in the review section include sourcing, coverage, layout, and style. DrKay (talk) 18:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

DrKay (talk) 17:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delist per my concerns. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:20, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delist has done some great trimming, but the article needs more work. It should be delisted unless Victoriaearle (who I've pinged hoping they will comment) or someone else plans to make more edits. Z1720 (talk) 15:56, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delist, some improvements, but not there. The “New beginnings” section has a construction project beginning in 2004, later beginning in 2006, and no further info. An incubator with a dozen businesses sourced to 2006.  Efforts in 2005 to change the city’s image.  It looks like history stopped 15 years ago.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  19:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.