Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1992 Major League Baseball expansion draft/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 17:36, 19 February 2012.

1992 Major League Baseball expansion draft

 * Nominator(s): – Muboshgu (talk) 22:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I initially thought of bringing this up for GA, but was told it works better as a list. I will happily take this to FL status. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Support – Meets FL standards. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 01:03, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm going to be on vacation from December 23 through January 8, so if there are any further comments between now and then, please keep them on ice for me and I'll address them when I return. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

That's all from me at the moment.  Harrias  talk 17:04, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comments from  Harrias  talk
 * First a quick note: I can see from your comment above that you won't be around for a while: but I figured I'd post my questions while I'm here, and you can look at them when you get back.
 * A couple of things strike me regarding the "All-Star" emphasis: firstly, what reference is backing that information up? And secondly, when was the player an All-Star: the article doesn't state whether the player had been an All-Star when they were picked, had been an All-Star before they were chosen, were an All-Star for the team that drafted them, or were an All-Star at some point in their career for someone.
 * In the Procedure section, it states that: "Colorado won the toss and chose to pick first overall leaving the second and third overall picks to the Marlins." but in the table, Colorado picked first, Florida second and Colorado third: appearing to contradict the previous statement. Could you clarify for me please?
 * I thank you for your comments, and understanding that it took me until today to address them. To your comments, (1) I added a sentence mentioning who had been All-Stars in their career, using a reliable statistics website to source that they were All-Stars. I debated discussing it in greater depth (as in who was an All-Star before the draft and who after), but chose to leave it this way so the reader can peruse articles and see when these players were All-Stars. I can change that if it's a sticking point. (2) That comment in the procedure section was an error. The Marlins did not chose second and third, the teams alternated picks. I struck the erroneous bit from the sentence. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Support your comments seem reasonable, nice work.  Harrias  talk 19:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Conditional support
 * The "Position" column doesn't sort correctly. You may need to change "Right-handed pitcher" to Right-handed pitcher.
 * I can't find it, but I know there's a guideline somewhere about linking every instance of an element in a table. Having all the instances of "Colorado Rockies" and "Florida Marlins" as links in the "Selected by" column is overwhelming.  Similarly all the items in the "Position" column.
 * Other than that, the list looks good. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 19:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Table sorting is fixed.
 * As for suggesting that each instance repeated in a table shouldn't be wikilinked, I'd need to see where it says that. WP:WHENTABLE shows examples of tables that use the same exact behavior. Other lists that I (Babe Ruth Award, Warren Spahn Award) and others (Kansas City Cowboys (AA) all-time roster) have recently promoted also link every instance in a table, even if it's repeated. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:56, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, now that I'm confident I don't misunderstand any of it, how about replacing the first paragraph with the following? – The 1992 Major League Baseball expansion draft was an expansion draft held by Major League Baseball (MLB) in New York City during the 1992–93 offseason on November 17, 1992 to allow the Florida Marlins and Colorado Rockies to build their rosters prior to debuting in the National League (NL) East and the NL West divisions, respectively, in the 1993 MLB season.  Good raise  12:51, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? You'd prefer "...Major League Baseball expansion draft was an expansion draft held by Major League Baseball ..."?  The Rambling Man (talk) 12:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops, should have read that one more time... Still, I don't like the first paragraph as it is now. It sounds clumsy. I recommend following MOS:BOLDTITLE's advice: "If the article's title does not lend itself to being used easily and naturally in the opening sentence, the wording should not be bent in an effort to include it". – On November 17, 1992, during the 1992–93 offseason, the Major League Baseball (MLB) held an expansion draft in New York City to allow the Florida Marlins and Colorado Rockies to build their rosters prior to debuting in the National League (NL) East and the NL West divisions, respectively, in the 1993 MLB season.  Good raise  13:45, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I like that suggestion. It has been incorporated. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Support.  Good raise  16:49, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments from another ignoramus Matthewedwards : Chat  07:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It's unnecessary to Wikilink New York City in the Lede. I doubt anyone who will read this article won't have heard of the city, and the link is of very little value because it has nothing to do with this page's subject.
 * Major League Baseball (MLB) expanded to add two new expansion teams -- sounds a little repetitive. Can a synonym be used for the first "expanded"?
 * Each existing club could protect fifteen players on their roster from being drafted and only one player could be drafted from each team in each round. More context is needed. How many players are on a team's roster? I don't even know how many men are on the field during a game!
 * Did Joe Giradi play for the Rockies and manage the Marlins at the same time? The image caption is really unclear about this
 * The Rockies' payroll appeared to be $4 million, less than what the Marlins would pay Bryan Harvey This is the wrong tense. Why not "less than what the Marlins paid Bryan Harvey"?
 * The rest of it, especially the 2 paragraphs of the Results section and the last 2 of the Aftermath section, just goes over my head. But I'll put that down to being up since 4.30am with a teething baby and it now being 11pm.
 * Fixed, other than the teething baby part. That challenge puts FLC into perspective. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


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