Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/19th Golden Melody Awards/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 19:06, 11 July 2009.

19th Golden Melody Awards

 * Nominator(s): Arsonal (talk) 20:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it is the most complete and thorough article for any Golden Melody Award-related articles. It is the most recent award ceremony excluding this year's awards which has not occurred. The awards is dubbed the "Chinese-language Grammys" (actual citation in the GMA article). There hasn't been any changes to the article since I updated it in December and nominated it for a DYK. Arsonal (talk) 20:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment I'll do a full review later, but please note that we do not link dates in articles anymore (see WP:MOSNUM); I already fixed this in this article, but keep that in mind for future reference. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments from
 * General
 * Dabs, external links check out fine.
 * Lead
 * Initially, there were 10,632 submissions from 185 companies in the music industry, making it the largest submission pool to date. -- to date is WP:WEASEL, I would instead use something like "in the Awards' history"
 * I was wondering about doing that because the nominees for the 20th Golden Melody Awards are already out. Although the number of submissions for that is out somewhere, I haven't had the chance to look for it, and I'm not sure if it surpassed the 19th GMAs. Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I would start by looking that information up so you can make the necessary changes.-- T ru  c o   503 16:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Done The 20th Golden Melody Awards only has 7,982 submissions, so submissions for the 19th is the largest in GMA history. Arsonal (talk) 20:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Winners for artistic and traditional music categories were announced on June 21, 2008 at Taipei County Hall in a ceremony separate from that for popular music categories. -- Unlink traditional music and popular music per WP:OVERLINK
 * Done Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In contrast, artists from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Japan, and Canada attended the awards ceremony for popular music categories, which was held at the Taipei Arena on July 5, 2008. -- 1)I'm confused, artists came from Singapore and Malaysia or from Singapore, Malaysia? Which is it? If its the latter, you should just mention it as Singapore.
 * Well, Singapore is not in Malaysia, so they are separate. I'm not sure why the other locations were delinked by Dabomb87. Arsonal (talk)
 * Oh okay. He unlinked them because of WP:OVERLINK-- do not link common geographical locations.-- T ru  c o   503 16:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Chua's seven nominations for her album Goodbye & Hello was also the most ever received by a female artist. -> "Chua's record seven nominations for her album Goodbye & Hello are also the most received by a female artist."
 * Done Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * However, Chou's primary lyricist Vincent Fang was present to receive the award of Best Lyricist for Chou's song "Blue and White Porcelain" (Chinese: 青花瓷; pinyin: qīng huā cí). -- I would +"on his behalf" after receive the award
 * Done I changed it to the song because it was Fang who was supposed to receive the award anyway. Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * List
 * Checks out fine
 * References
 * I'm not an expert on international sources, so what makes Yam.com and StarNest.cn reliable sources?-- T ru  c o   503 01:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess they are some of the numerous news portals in China. I deferred back to previous FA articles related to Chinese music, particularly Jay Chou and S.H.E, which also used a few of these news portals as sources. Arsonal (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me.-- T ru  c o   503 16:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved/clarified; meets WP:WIAFL. T ru  c o   503 02:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Sources are mostly good, with the exception of the dead link. I don't mind, though I'm not sure what other reviewers will say. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The dead links need to be resolved.
 * Partially done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I have removed the GMA2008.asia website from the list of external links.
 * I have removed Ref 10 because I don't think I can get that data back, and none of the pages from this GMA2008.asia page is archived. At this point, that detail seems too minor anyway.
 * Ref 11 (now Ref 10) now has a Google archive. The content is readable.
 * I have added a new reference for the performers section, but I don't know if I can get one for the award presenters section because that list also comes from the unarchived GMA2008.asia website (Ref 5). I have been unable to find a replacement. I am reluctant to remove it completely because that is a lot of content. This list can be cross-checked with the mirror article on the Chinese Wikipedia, which was added prior to the addition of the performers section here on the English Wikipedia.

*Ref 9, add  to the citation template. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Done Arsonal (talk) 06:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Image comments
 * File:Jay Chou in Seoul.jpg needs a source and author.
 * [ [:File:ChurchoftheLight-jAdore.jpg]] – is this vital to an article about an awards ceremony? I could see it being in an article about the music video, but not here. Strongly suggest removal. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed the image. Please discuss before reinstating it. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Add alternative text to the images]] (discussion). Dabomb87 (talk) 01:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * I ran this article through AWB and found a couple of minor errors that I fixed. I will come back and look at it closer soon. --Kumioko (talk) 04:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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