Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2,000-yard club/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 10:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC).

2,000-yard club

 * Nominator(s):  Toa   Nidhiki05  17:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

This list is on the seven NFL running backs who have rushed for 2,000 yards in a single season. This is considered a significant achievement for running backs, and the article has meets all criteria by defining the subject, having a strong list table, and giving a fair description of each subject.

For full disclosure, I have another nomination up at the moment - Featured list candidates/List of NFL tied games/archive1. It has been up for months now, has achieved a good amount of support, and will probably be closed soon. I think this new nomination fits the rules of WP:FLC.  Toa   Nidhiki05  17:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose – Sorry, but I think that this list has 3b issues, as most seven-item lists do. I have a hard time believing that this information couldn't be incorporated into another list of larger scope, such as highlighting relevant entries at List of National Football League season rushing yards leaders. In fact, a bullet-point list is already in that article, and I see no reason why this table couldn't be inserted there. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 01:12, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I respectfully disagree - I don't think the list of season rushing yards leaders is a good place to put this information at all. That article is a list of individuals rushing leader by season, while this article is a list of 2,000 yard rushers. That is two different things - that is focused on rushing in the aspect of a league-best achievement, while this article is focused entirely on the highest individual achievements in rushing yardage. Additionally, how is a list being small necessarily a bad thing? This list isn't massive because the achievement is rare - there are 84 1,5000 yard rushers and well over 250 1,000 yard rushers, which is a major part of the reason why this achievement is so notable. In a purely historical context, you don't hear anybody talking about how great Earl Campbell's 1980 season (1,934 yards) was, or how Ahman Green and Barry Sanders both had seasons with 1,883 yards. I think the lead's length alone is proof enough that this can stand as a stand-alone list.  Toa   Nidhiki05  02:01, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Comments
 * The "No." abbreviation is explained in the key AND it uses the undefined template. I don't understand this. Why does it need a tooltip if it's in the key? What good is the tooltip anyway, isn't it just an easter egg?  Also, the definition in the key, is the use of "nth" there appropriate?  Doesn't that mean "last" or "utmost"?  Why not just say "number"?
 * References 6, 7, and 8 are cited on every line. Since they are global references can they be cited just once in the table, maybe in the caption text? Please disregard.  Rejectwater (talk) 01:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Pictures: in my opinion there are one too many images on this page and the captions are not succinct. I don't see how when the picture was taken is relevant. Cheers, Rejectwater (talk) 04:01, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * First off I want to apologize for the delay in responding; I did not realize anything had happened here. As to the first issue, I (think) I have corrected it. To the third, I am not aware of any free use in-game pictures of the players from their 2,000 yard season. I need more clear advice on how to correct this issue.  Toa   Nidhiki05  03:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There are two issues I have with the images: the number of images and their captions. I will explain these two issues separately below.
 * The number of images: I believe the page has too many images. It's a small article; four images is too much clutter. My two cents is to use no more than three images.  Manual of Style/Images addresses Wikipedia policies regarding image use- there is no set maximum that I am aware of, but I think "You should always be watchful not to overwhelm an article with images by adding more just because you can" applies here.
 * Captions should be succint. See Manual of Style/Captions.  An example of a succinct caption in this article would be something like "O.J. Simpson was the first player to rush for 2.000 yards in a single season."  The way the captions are now, they introduce material better left to the article and/or give irrelevant information about the image.
 * Regards, Rejectwater (talk) 11:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, I believe I have fixed those issues now.  Toa   Nidhiki05  14:54, 13 June 2013 (UTC)


 * For the record here, I have completed a massive upgrade to the article in question (List of National Football League rushing champions). Hopefully it should be very clear why this list is warranted and needed, as the focus in this article is entirely different from the latter.  Toa   Nidhiki05  17:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose while this list might not be a 3.b violation, I really do think that this article would be much better suited as an article (perhaps with a section on each entry) than a list. the 1000-yard club though might be an appropriate list. Nergaal (talk) 04:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)


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