Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2008 World Series of Poker Europe results/archive1

NOTE: FLC comments corrected after this page was archived have been noted on this pages talk page.--- I'm Spartacus!  NO! I'm Spartacus! 01:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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2008 World Series of Poker Europe results

 * ''Nominator(s):  I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon

And another contribution from WP:Poker.--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 08:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Weak Oppose/Comments from  - prose, table, and references problems.
 * Lead


 * The World Series of Poker Europe (WSOPE) is the first expansion effort of World Series of Poker-branded poker tournaments outside of the United States.| 1)Unlink United States, its a common geographical term 2)Unbold World Series of Poker, its not the literal title of the article, you can, however, link it.
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Since 1970, the bracelet events have occurred every year in Las Vegas. The inaugural WSOPE, held in 2007, marked the first time that a WSOP bracelet was awarded outside of Las Vegas.| It should be better explain here that the WSOP bracelet represents the winner of the event/tournament.
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * With the purchase of these casinos Harrah's decided to expand its WSOP label into Europe.| comma before casinos
 * Done Are you sure?  It looks wrong to me, but grammar is not my strong suit.--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * European casinos typically have a different environment than those in the United States.| I suggest abbreviating the United States to "US" or "U.S."
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * On July 5, 2007 Harrah's announced an alliance with Betfair, one of the largest online gaming companies in the world located in England.| 1)Unlink the date 2)Comma before located''
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge the third and fourth paragraphs.
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The U.K. Gambling Act of 2005 allows for legal regulated online poker sites.| Spell out U.K. to "United Kingdom"
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Furthermore, as the laws governing the age of gambling differ in England than the U.S. The WSOPE admitts younger players.| 1)Remove as 2)It would be best to merge these two sentences with a semi colon 3)Typo on "admits"
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * In 2007, one of these younger players, 18 year old Annette "Annette_15" Obrestad became the youngest player to ever make it to win a WSOP bracelet event.| 1)Remove the nickname, its not proper/professional to place it in the prose. 2)Remove make it to
 * About the nickname, I disagree. Annette_15 is her online handle, and she is also known for her online poker playing. It is also common in Poker to use nicknames: "Greg 'Fossilman' Raymer" "Chris 'Jesus' Ferguson" "Stu 'The Kid' Ungar."   So, while it may not be appropraite to use nicknames with a Football player or basketball player, I would argue that with Poker Players we are dealing with a culture where nicknames are expected.  I did the other change.--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The second World Series of Poker Europe took place between September 19 to October 1, 2008.|1)Unlink the World Series of Poker Europe 2)Add ",2008" after September 19
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Remove the extra space between the lead and the first section.
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Key


 * The title of the columns should be in bold because that's how they are represented in the table.
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Results


 * Add a colon after References in each entry.
 * Done--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I would make all table sortable, it would be best.
 * Disagree. None of the tables is longer than 9 records, 2 of the 3 records are sorted descending.  Thus, the only column that somebody might sort on is the players name, and I don't think for a table that is 8 or 9 records that it is necessary to make them sortable.--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Why isn't the currency in which is used here explained in the lead, it confuses readers, like me.
 * Added note in the table to that effect. Think making it a line in the lead would be superfulous---it is in England, most people would expect it to be in pounds our Euros.--- I'm Spartacus!  PoppaBalloon 21:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * References


 * Which citation templates are being used? There is an inconsistency with how the fields are presented, like the dates.
 * Error with the citation template in ref #9.
 * Consistency with the publisher of Poker Listing: is it Poker Listings? or Poker Listing?
 * Ref #5 is missing a publisher, in addition to being dead.-- TRU CO   503  02:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Quick comment- The word "results" in the article name should be lower case. I don't know if moving it during this process will break anything so I won't. Otto4711 (talk) 22:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments from
 * "outside of the United States"
 * "Since 1970 if one wanted to compete in the World Series of Poker, one had to travel to Las Vegas."-->Since 1970, participants have had to travel to Las Vegas if they wanted to compete in the World Series of Poker (WSOP).
 * "While the WSOP held circuit events in other locations, the main tournaments, which awarded bracelets to the winners were exclusively held in Vegas."-->Although the WSOP held circuit events in other locations, the main tournaments, which awarded bracelets to the winners, were exclusively held in Las Vegas.
 * "awarded outside of Las Vegas"
 * "in the London area - Fifty, Leicester Square" Should be en em dash (&mdash;).
 * "U.S.." Double periods.
 * "did not relying upon its reputation alone" Wrong tense.
 * "On July 5, 2007 Harrah's" Comma after "2007".
 * "Harrah's announced an alliance"-->Harrah's announced its alliance
 * "is intended to play on Betfair's European reputation" "play on"-->build on or take advantage of.
 * "In 2007, U.S. laws prevented the WSOP from accepting" Confusing, were the laws passed in 2007?
 * "youngest player to ever to win a"
 * "Leicester Square, London" Don't link common geographical terms such as "London".
 * "Three time bracelet winner " Hyphenate "Three time".
 * "The 2008 WSOPE was particularly notable as Jesper Hougaard became the first person to ever win a bracele"-->The 2008 WSOPE was particularly notable, as Jesper Hougaard became the first person to win a bracelet
 * "Ivan Demidov made news as he was one of the November"-->Ivan Demidov was one of the November
 * Captions that are not complete sentences should have periods at the end.
 * Link seven-card stud. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Sources
 * Ref 5, the "BluffMagazine.com. Bluff Magazine" is not necessary; just put "Bluff Magazine".


 * Comment: RL just got real hectic for me... will try to take care of the above issues this evening or weekend.--- I'm Spartacus!  The artist formerly known as Balloonman 15:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Real life is taking its toll... I won't be able to work on these last few chages. I'll see if somebody else from the Poker project will tackle this FLC, but if not, go ahead and close it with the next batch.--- I'm Spartacus!  The artist formerly known as Balloonman 03:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd hate to see it fail, so I will resolve most of these myself. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.