Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Arizona Diamondbacks seasons


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 20:11, 11 October 2008.

Arizona Diamondbacks seasons
I based the format of the article off of Boston Red Sox seasons which has FL status. All references are reliable, and featured list criteria appears to be meet. -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   19:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - after my issues being resolved, I feel it meets the FL Criteria.-- S R X  21:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Why not do it the modern way: instead of the hidden links to single years, which no one will click, make the first one explicit, and a gateway to all of its sibling articles. That way, you don't waste valuable blue, which dilutes the high-value links. So, instead of that silly template— Since 1998, try "Since Since the 1998 baseball season ... Tony   (talk)  09:03, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Done -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   02:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but you did it to the second occurrence, and haven't removed all of the other blue years that look like plain useless year-links. Tony   (talk)  01:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I got it now -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   22:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Further Comments
 * Current ref 3 (ARIZONA ...) the link title is in all capitals, per the MOS we dont do that even when the original is in all capitals.
 * Fixed caps -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   14:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments - I'd like to see some things fixed before I support...
 * "The name "Diamondback" was inspired by the Western diamondback snake, was..." isn't grammatically correct - either change the comma to 'and' or the 'was' to a comma, so it reads one of:
 * "The name "Diamondback", inspired by the Western diamondback snake, was..."
 * "The name "Diamondback" was inspired by the Western diamondback snake and was..."
 * Done -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   11:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * "and made it to the National League Division Series were they..." - where not were.
 * Done -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   11:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * "The following season, Arizona just missed the playoffs, after the National League West has won the Los Angeles Dodgers." - has won? should be was won. Also not sure if the commas here are correct, but I'm terrible with them myself so would like someone else to weigh in here if possible :)
 * Done -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   11:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I'd prefer if the links to NLDS/NLCS/World Series linked to that year's version, not the page for them (ie 1999 National League Division Series instead of NLDS).
 * Done -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   11:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Might be worth adding somewhere what the team's all-time record is, although I must admit I don't know where you can source this (I've been trying to find one for the Giants for a while but nowhere, not even b-r, seems to have it unless I'm going blind).
 * I'll look for it -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   11:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: I haven't been able to find a source with the all-time win-loss record. I found with the win-loss record of all Arizona's managers, my understanding is that adding that up would be original research. -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   23:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Award winners on the team would be a good addition: other featured seasons lists have this (see Yankees, Cards).
 * I'll look for that -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   11:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: Awards have been added -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   22:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Other than that it looks good. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 09:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: I don't like some of the grammar, even though some was taken from the Red Sox FL. For example:
 * The Diamondbacks are a member of both the Major League Baseball’s (MLB) National League Western Division and the National League (NL) itself. " Isn't the division a subset of the league? A better alternative might be "A member of the... National League (NL) Western Division."
 * "Arizona made their Major League debut in the 1998 baseball season, where they were an expansion team." This could be simplified by saying, "Arizona made their Major League debut as an expansion team in the 1998 baseball season".
 * This is more of a general question, but do all those things in the lead need sourcing? They are repeated in the table below, and any reader wanting verification can just go to the refs in the table. --Golbez (talk) 20:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
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