Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Atlantic Coast Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 15:36, 26 September 2009.

Atlantic Coast Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year

 * Nominator(s): Jrcla2 talk 22:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list on behalf of myself and User:Remember because we believe that it fits FLC criteria and is referenced with WP:RS. After seeing the Big East Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year get awarded a FL status, the ACC Player of the Year is now, we believe, worthy also. Jrcla2 talk 22:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Support Mm40 (talk) 02:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Support — Chris!  c t 22:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * All looks good, but two quick comments:
 * Second "paragraph" of lead is one sentence, this should be integrated with another paragraph
 * Done. Remember (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * What does the "class" column refer to and what do the different values "Senior/Junior/Sophomore" mean? Is this some sort of basketball terminology?  It should be explained within the article or at the very least wikilinked somewhere
 * This refers to the year that a person is in school in the United States. See freshman, sophmore, junior, senior.  I will try to think of a way to deal with this. Remember (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and added a footnote that explains to non-U.S. people the meaning of "Class". This should clear up the confusion. Jrcla2 talk 16:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, ya learn something new every day :-) Now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Weak support Comment  Really nice job; my only quibble is that the note about the first African American winner is unnecessary. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * When I added that it was because I felt that it was a poignant piece of information, because it shows (via college basketball) the historical race relations in the United States. If you really feel strongly about having it removed, I won't object, but it was never intended to be a slanderous or demeaning footnote, just an "interesting factoid" kind. Jrcla2 talk 16:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with Jrcla2. Remember (talk) 17:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I never thought it was "slanderous or demeaning" at all; it just seems to give undue weight to race, which really is irrelevant in this context. Furthermore, the lead doesn't make any mention about race at all, so a footnote like that seems strange. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No that's fine, I'm just saying that it seemed pertinent to me when I put it in. If people feel that it might be superfluous and that it should probably be removed, that's also okay. I'm not going to argue a minor detail with this. By the way, this FLC has been up for a while now and doesn't seem to have any opposition, yet (so far) nothing but support. When can this finally close and become a FL? Jrcla2 talk 18:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The directors will close the FLC when they think there is consensus. I have changed to weak support, and will support if the note is removed. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment – List looks clean except for this note: "The University of South Carolina left the Atlantic Coast Conference in 1971, are are now a member of the Southeastern Conference." I think the first one is supposed to be "and".  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 20:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Good catch. It's been fixed. Remember (talk) 20:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Support – Very good list.  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 19:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
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