Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Barry Sheene Medal/archive1


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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 25 February 2020 (UTC).

Barry Sheene Medal

 * Nominator(s): MWright96 (talk) 20:42, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

This list concerns the Barry Sheene Medal, the most prestigious award in the Supercars Championship outside of its drivers' championship trophy. The equivalent to the Brownlow Medal and the Dally M Medal, it is named after the two-time Grand Prix world motorcycling champion and motor racing commentator Barry Sheene. I believe this list meets the criteria to be at a featured level and look forwards to all comments and concerns. MWright96 (talk) 20:42, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * "cast votes of three, two and one points towards a driver" - this reads really weirdly to me. Maybe "award three drivers scores of three, two and one points".  Also, does each member of the panel separately award 3-2-1, or does the panel as a whole award one set of such marks?
 * It is done individually. MWright96 (talk) 13:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "Many considered it highly prestigious after the drivers' championship" => "Many considered it highly prestigious, second only to the drivers' championship". Also, could you clarify who the "many" are?  Drivers?  Journalists?  Fans?  All of the above?
 * The drivers. MWright96 (talk) 13:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "and is frequently likened" => "and it is frequently likened"
 * Reworded. MWright96 (talk) 13:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "He took his maiden drivers' championship" - I would simply say "first", as this reads weirdly like he won the championship of driving maidens ;-)
 * Changed. MWright96 (talk) 13:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "and Ford's first since the 1997 season" - now admittedly I know nothing about motorsport, but where does Ford come in? If his team was Stone Brothers Racing, where does Ford fit in?
 * Ford was Stone Brothers Racing's supplier of racing cars. MWright96 (talk) 13:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Think that's it from me. Good work overall, and pretty cool that we have five different pictures of Lowndes to use ;-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:38, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * All of the queries raised above have been addressed. MWright96 (talk) 13:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:10, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Support from Teratix
Great job as usual, hope this gets the necessary reviews before slipping off to the archives. – Teratix ₵ 08:51, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Consider using Template:Infobox sports award, which has some specialised parameters.
 * Reward(s): Medal obvious and unnecessary
 * Australian Vee Eight Supercar Company (AVESCO).[a][6] in 2003. superfluous full stop before footnotes
 * who died from cancer of the oesophagus and stomach in March 2003 relevant to an article on the award?
 * results are not announced until the championship's end-of-season gala why not just "results are announced at"?
 * Drivers consider it highly prestigious after the drivers' championship I think the text is trying to convey that this is the second-most prestigious award after the drivers' championship, but it doesn't make sense as written.
 * Australian Football League's Brownlow Medal and rugby league's Dally M Medal why provide the league for one and the sport for the other? I would just note the sport for both.
 * took his first drivers' championship title "took" seems odd in this context; I would use "won", "earned" or "claimed", but it may just be my preference.
 * first drivers' championship title that year and the first for the team's car supplier use of "and" here is slightly confusing, as it implies Ambrose's first title and Ford's first title since 1997 are different. Comma or semicolon seems more natural.
 * have been voted the recipient of the medal -> "have won", "have earned" or "have claimed", doesn't need to be so long
 * Lowndes was named the award's winner in 2005 the relevance of this sentence is unclear until the following one, and is slightly lengthier than required. I would integrate the two: "Lowndes has the most victories of any competitor, collecting the award five times: in 2005, 2006, 2011, 2013 and 2015."
 * Winners list needs a table title for accessibility.
 * Most if not all refs should have publishers
 * Any reason ref 23 has no archive link?
 * Have made adjustments to the list where necessary MWright96 (talk) 18:09, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I made a couple of additional tweaks which you may wish to review. Support. – Teratix ₵ 10:42, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Support from Bookscale
This seems to meet FL criteria. A couple of things: -Good work overall. Bookscale(talk) 12:28, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It was instigated by Tony Cochrane, the chairman of the championship's organising body Australian Vee Eight Supercar Company (AVESCO), in 2003. - this sentence is a bit clunky: as a couple of suggestions, wouldn't it make more sense (for readability) to move the year up to the front of the sentence? "Instigate" sometimes implies something underhanded or improper, is there a better word?
 * Have reworded. MWright96 (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Is there any more information (a sentence is fine) on the journalists who judge the award (if a requirement for a FL is comprehensiveness)?
 * That information is not included anywhere MWright96 (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You've mentioned Ambrose's team Stone Bros but no one else - is that deliberate? Should that information be included?
 * No. Have removed that information MWright96 (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Do the photos relate to the year of winning? I notice some drivers have multiple photos and others do not, which looks a bit odd (unless there is a particular explanation for it?)
 * Not necessarily. Other similar featured lists of awards have a similar pattern. MWright96 (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Happy with your edits or explanations - thank you. Support. Bookscale (talk) 11:16, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Source review – The references all appear to be reliable and well-formatted, and the link-checker tool shows no issues. Everything looks like a pass on the sourcing front. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 22:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 03:03, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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