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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Matthewedwards 23:10, 10 January 2009.

Billy Ray Cyrus discography
I think that this page is worthy enough of being a FL. It's completely sourced, everything runs and flows well together. The page is always being monitored by myself and others. Absolutely everything looks great! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 04:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Comment "This following is detailed discography for the American country music artist Billy Ray Cyrus." We don't start lists like this anymore. Look at recently promoted discographies for ideas. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:20, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Better? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 04:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - there were many problems at first, but now it meets WP:WIAFL, although a peer review could have done good here.--SRX 00:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Good start, but I have a few problems and suggestions:
 * "4× Multi-Platinum" is redundant. 4x is Multi. Should be 4x Platinum.
 * Comment See note by TenPoundHammer. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The small font for the Album details is unneccessary. The irony with using small font with bullet points is that it doesn't actually save any vertical space at all, it just makes it more difficult to read.  I'd recommend taking a look at pretty much every other FL discog, as I think none of them use small font for anythibg but the catalog numbers.
 * Done! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * In "RIAA (US):", I don't think it's neccesary to mentioned RIAA. We don't qualify US in the chart positions with "Billboard (US)", so there's no need here.  Just likk US to RIAA, and if the reader wants to know more they can click through.  Same thing with CRIA.
 * Done! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * "Canadian chart positions are unknown from November 2000 to June 2004" bothers me quite a bit. What that seems to me to say is that you just couldn't find that info.  It obviously exists, so it's just a matter of finding it.  And without finding it, the list is not complete.
 * Comment Nope, Canadian chart positions cannot be found because RPM (magazine) closed in November 2000, and so they can't be found anywhere. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * He's right, there is no source to verify the CAN chart positions between November 2000 (when RPM closed) and June 2004 (when the Canadian R&R Country chart was first published). This wasn't a hindrance in Diamond Rio discography.
 * I see; I did not know that... Well, I won't hold that against the article for now, though it would be nice if there were some reliable source telling us this rather than something we are assuming.  Is there any such source you could direct me to? Drewcifer (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Best I can tell you is that RPM went under in November 2000 and R&R started its Canadian country chart in June 2004. Ask Eric444 or Caldorwards4, they might know. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * A bunch of the music videos are missing directors.
 * 'Comment Haven't been able to find them. And theirs only 9 that don't have one. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Also not a hindrance. We don't know who directed the "Working Man's Blues" video that Diamond Rio did as Jed Zeppelin. "Unknown" might be a good filler here. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been away from FLC for a few months, and I surely would've brought this up with the Diamond Rio FLC if I was around, but I find it hard to believe that we're okay with incomplete lists. By "unkown" what are we saying?  That the information isn't available?  Of course the information is available, and if you can't find it then you aren't looking in the right places.  Someone directed the music video, so saying "We can't find it" just doesn't cut it for me.  And the argument that the Diamond Rio discog has one missing is pretty irrelevant as well, per WP:OSE. Drewcifer (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The information isn't available online at least. CMT is a good source, but even they are missing some director credits, and there doesn't seem to be any other source for them. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Research does not begin and end online. If it can't be found online, look elsewhere.  Information being difficult to find doesn't mean it shouldn't be included. Drewcifer (talk) 01:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * And where else would they be found? I've checked sources like Country Weekly and other music magazines. Country music is not very well covered in print sources, and video directors are especially hard to find. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 16:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The citations need to be formatted using citation templates.
 * Agreed. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * MVDbase is not considered a reliable source. Needs to be replaced.
 * Done! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Some external links would be good.
 * Some general references would also help.
 * The certifications in the video section are formmatted differently than the other certification columns throughout the list.
 * The first table featuring certifications should include a link to Music recording sales certification and List of music recording sales certifications. Take a look at Nine Inch Nails discography for an example. 02:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewcifer3000 (talk • contribs)
 * Done! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: RIAA uses "(foo) &times; Multi-Platinum" so I think that's appropriate. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh, good point. Well, it's still redundant, but I guess if the source is redundant is okay. Drewcifer (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment The album appearences still need sources, and the citations need to beformatted with cite web Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 19:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Oppose I haven't looked at the prose or tables yet, but the lead needs inline citations, which whould be formatted with URLs, page titles, publishers (with publisher dates as necessary) and last access dates. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:04, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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