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First women admitted to degrees at the University of Oxford

 * Nominator(s): Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

I am nominating this article for featured list because it is well-sourced and, IMO, meets the basic requirements of a featured list. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Comments

 * Great work and a topic kinda close to my heart as my son currently attends one of the formerly all-female colleges, but I feel like you need to explain the set-up of these women receiving degrees for the first time in a bit more detail, specifically the fact that the first degrees were awarded in 1920 but the women in the table "graduated" anything up to 41 years earlier. Presumably the degree awards were in essence retrospective?  Also, how did the women originally "graduate" without receiving a degree (most people reading the article would understand the concept of "graduating" as "receiving their degree".  Did the earlier women essentially just, I dunno, leave.....?)
 * Some more nit-picky comments:
 * Image caption: "First women colleges at Oxford" => "First women's colleges at Oxford"
 * "Before 1920, it is estimated that around 4,000 women studied at Oxford" => "Tt is estimated that around 4,000 women studied at Oxford before 1920"
 * " The first woman unofficial accepted at Oxford" => " The first woman unofficially accepted at Oxford"
 * "The last survivor of the 1920 conferral ceremonies was Constance Savery who graduated in 1920" - last four words are redundant given how the sentence starts
 * Image caption starting "former" needs a full stop
 * Suggest linking "jurisprudence" in the table as it's a rather obscure word -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @ChrisTheDude, I've gathered and added as much info as I could in a "History" section. I've also made the minor edits you have suggested and added the links too. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Omnis Scientia, thank you for writing the article and expanding the coverage of women at Oxford. In response to ChrisTheDude's question, the exams available and taken by women changed during the period. From 1876 the university's Delegacy for Local Examinations (DLE) offered Women’s Examinations, equivalent to Responsions, and pass or honours final examinations. By 1894 women could take university examination papers through the DLE, which awarded a certificate of the results of the exams. From 1896 Somerville or the Association for the Education of Women issued a diploma listing the exams a student had passed at the end of her studies.
 * Suggest replacing Graduation date with Final examination in the table, if that is what the date represents
 * Suggest another paragraph explaining about the exams available and the certificates and diplomas mentioned above
 * LMH, Somerville and the Home Students all opened in 1879. LMH uses a foundation date of 1878 as its founding committee was set up in that year, but I think that is not relevant to this article
 * I believe that in "By 1895, Oxford and the University of Cambridge were the only universities in the United Kingdom to deny women degrees" the UK means GB and NI, as Trinity College, Dublin was not awarding women degrees. Suggest replacing United Kingdom with Great Britain
 * Suggest that "The five women's colleges were not given equal status to men's colleges until 1959" should say "the men's colleges" as it refers to the group of existing fully accepted colleges, not men's colleges in general. St Catherine's College, Oxford and St Catherine's College, Oxford did not get full college status until 1961 and 1962. TSventon (talk) 19:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)