Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Foreign relations of Denmark/archive2


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 00:25, 11 January 2011.

Foreign relations of Denmark

 * Nominator(s): Ahmetyal 14:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I nominated this, in August, but failed. Im trying again. Ahmetyal 14:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - You have a number of blank cells in the "Formal Relations Began" row. The notes you frequently link to other articles and really how notable are articles like Denmark–Italy relations and Denmark – Hungary relations to begin with. The Lead is totally unsourced as well as other items on the list such as Ireland and most of the Middle eastern table. Also the dates in the "Formal Relations Began" row violate WP:DATESNO. Also a lot of the references are formatted incorrectly. Afro  ( Talk ) 05:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose clearly below FL standards. The lead is completely unreferenced, and under the first section, the countries should not be in italics. Many of the relations links use a hyphen instead of an endash, "Disputes – International" should be "International disputes", "Formal Relations Began" should be "Formal relations began" (why should table column heads have caps?). More critically, I also fail to see what this is actually a list of. It lists a lot of countries, with a date relations began and a link to an article. I would expect at least an overview of where Denmark had embassies and consulates, and who had embassies in Denmark. It seems that embassies have been left out for countries in Europe, but included other places. The list is also incomplete, as many began dates are lacking. It is not appropriate to have many smaller tables, each for a continent or region, this makes it for instance impossible to sort the entire list by date. I don't understand how sorting the notes column is going to help the reader, and it looks weired with bullet points within the table. Some of the see also links are in the lead and/or the navbox. Many of the references are insufficiently/incorrectly formatted. There is a link that points back to the article and there is a dead link. Personally I would start from scratch and write an article, rather than a list, about the foreign relations of Denmark. The first section looks at various disputes; there have been many through the years, and I would expect this article to, among other things give an overview of all major issues, and overview of the foreign affairs services of Denmark, and overview of missions to Denmark (though not necessarily a complete list). The article should also look at international membership, such as EU, NATO, the Nordic Council, etc. Arsenikk (talk)  13:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Oppose for reasons that may overlap above: The Rambling Man (talk) 17:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Unsourced claims in lead.
 * Unsourced claims in "International disputes" section.
 * Odd use of ISO dates in the table, why not human-readable?
 * Notes seem to be just links out to other articles or dates of embassies (and I'd surprised that you don't include the embassy information for many countries if you do for, say, Austria).
 * No clue as to why "Formal relations began" col may have entries with multiple dates.
 * Some blank cells in that same column are unexplained.
 * Costa Rica is out of initial order.
 * Cols should be the same width from section to section.
 * "Denmark-Thailand relations" hyphen - all the others have been spaced or unspaced en-dashes.
 * References need full formatting.

Oppose very impressive list, but still lacking a bit:
 * The disputes section could use a bit of expansion since it is the most controversial part of the article. Also, I added a few citation needed tags there.
 * Turkey being in Europe needs a citation.
 * US does not have an embassy?
 * The Iraq entry is a bit thin.
 * How is Both countries are full members of the Union for the Mediterranean. relevant to Israel but not to the other 30 members?
 * Jordan and many of the Middle East states?
 * I would like to have a map of all the states that have embassies in Denmark, and Denmark has embassies there.

Nergaal (talk) 18:44, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm currently working on the notes, and when i'm done, the date and international disputes section will be improved. Ahmetyal(talk) 21:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


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