Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Jessica Simpson discography/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 17:36, 28 November 2010.

Jessica Simpson discography

 * Nominator(s): No vice 7   (Talk)  12:42, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

After transforming the list from this version to this version, I believe it now meets the FL criteria. Everything is now understandable and there are no unnecessary information. No vice 7  (Talk)  12:42, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comments - "...platinum by RIAA. [1][2]" no space. For the Singles you don't use  for the US and AUS refs but you use   for the ref for UK. In Promotional singles you use   for US Pop, but not US AC. Rowspan completely messes up the sorting on Music videos. I'm not sure on bolding but I believe the excessive bolding has been fixed and is no longer necessary. Bit confused also you use sorting for the music videos, but not Album appearances, and Soundtrack appearances these surely fall under the same lines as the music videos. No publisher for Ref 8. Coding errors on Ref 13, 58. Ref 8, 24, 25, 39, 40 needs a language parameter. Ref 27s title is Japanese and needs to be presented as such, this also needs a language parameter. I'm not sure on the Verifiability of About.com with Ref 75 I am unsure on how notable the author is.  Afro  ( Talk ) 17:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe the issues are now fixed. About bolding, I have added "plainrowheaders" to the tables as per the new format. No vice 7   (Talk)  06:50, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ref 23 needs a language parameter. Ref 6's retrieval date needs to be consistent with the rest. Would amazon not be a better source than IMDB for "When You Told Me You Loved Me" in soundtrack appearances? Afro  ( Talk ) 21:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed Ref 23 and Ref 6. I couldn't find the soundtrack in Amazon. I could find it only in Imdb. No vice 7   (Talk)  06:28, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * "US:669,000" space needed, why is there an ndash in the certifications column for "Do You Know" and "Happy Christmas..." but none in singles? Also video albums, "Playlist: The Very Best of Jessica Simpson" and "Happy Christmas..." you reference the dates, however the other albums you don't reference the dates, shouldn't all these dates be referenced? Afro  ( Talk ) 14:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed the sales. Is it okay if the dash in Do you know and happy christmas is removed? Should the singles have dashes then? And, I thought new releases need to be sourced. That's why I added ref for happy christmas and playlist. About the videos, as they do not have any chart history, the ref was added to show that they were released. If its a must to add ref, I'll add it. Thank You for notifying me though. No vice 7  Talk  02:48, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The removal of the dash for Certifications and Sales was what I was alluding to, considering the dash is used in the table to denote items which failed to chart. Afro  ( Talk ) 13:16, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What about now? No vice 7  Talk  13:51, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * "Here on Earth [61]" "Rugrats in Paris [62]" no space. "RIAA.[6][7][2]" 2 comes before 6. Ref 27 has no publisher. How reliable is Ilovethedowner.org? Afro  ( Talk ) 15:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed the refs. Ilovethedowner.org is a website related to associate director John Downer. No vice 7  Talk  03:59, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - I have no issues with the article. Afro  ( Talk ) 23:25, 18 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support I believe all issues have been resolved. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:19, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Looks good. Well Done.--AlastorMoody (talk) 06:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Hey, so everything looks good, only thing you should fix first is in the souring. It should be Billboard in italics, not regular "Billboard.com". Thats pretty much all the issues I see. I'm watching the page, so I'll have no problem supporting once this is fixed :) Nice job-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   10:13, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support My issues were resolved. Nicely done Novice!-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   10:28, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose Neutral
 * That lead is way too big, and the text is rather repetitive. Just an overview of Ms. Simpson's discography is enough, there's no need to write out every chart-placing and sales figures in prose form. Also note that as her career progresses, the lead shouldn't be getting longer and longer. I hope you can rewrite it so that it is at least a paragraph shorter. (see David Bowie discography for a model lead)
 * Not done: the lead is still very monotonous and repetitive. The whole lead is basically the following sentences repeated 4-5 times: "Simpson released Album in Year. The album reached number six on the Billboard 200 and was certified gold by the RIAA. The album sold 300,000 copies and produced three singles." I copy-edited it a little, but more is needed. Also, don't be shy to include info that isn't strictly chart/sales-related. For eg: which is her most acclaimed, award-winning effort; any changes in musical style between the albums; why did she shift labels twice; why country music?
 * Make sure you don't use the same word too many times. For eg: "album" is there 25 times, "number" 9 times, "US" 11 times...—indopug (talk) 14:04, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The lead is not too long, there are several discographies that have a longer lead than this. Crowz  RSA  03:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Novice7 has already shortened the lead.—indopug (talk) 04:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Please make similar columns of different tables of the same width, so that the article has a uniform appearance. For example, the Title column for all the tables should be equally wide. Same for Album details etc.
 * Not done: Have the tables apart from the two in the Album section been refashioned so?—indopug (talk) 14:04, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * The columns of the individual charts of Studio albums are of different widths.
 * The Studio albums table's Album details column is rather cramped. Can you widen it by merging the last two columns into a "Sales and certifications" column?
 * Compilation albums: wouldn't it suffice to add the D/E chart position as a note in the Album details, and remove the charts columns?
 * Studio albums: why is Canada not alphabetically listed? —indopug (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed almost everything. The only exception is the case of compilation albums where I tried to add it as a note, but the table gets messed up when I do so. Also, I've merged the sales and certifications columns into one. No vice 7  Talk  12:10, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What about now? Singles and promo tables have been corrected for uniform size, new information on lead too. I've tried my best to remove repetitions. No vice 7  Talk  11:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've added a bit more (please complete the ref I added). I still think the prose isn't great, so please try to find an independent copy-editor. But I won't be opposing any more 'cause I'll be off Wiki for the rest of the month. Another thing, per DISCOGSTYLE, "Non-original or previously-released material used on soundtracks, trailers, commercials, or any other compilation releases" should not be included. So please those from the Other appearances table.—indopug (talk) 05:47, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Removed singles which appeared on soundtracks. I'll contact a copy editor. No vice 7  Talk  11:36, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I copyedited the article and have run across a sentence that does not read well:
 * After dropping out of Sony, Simpson signed a record deal with both Ellen DeGeneres's record label Eleveneleven and the independent record label Primary Wave Music.
 * I was thinking of replacing that sentence with something along the lines of this:
 * After dropping out of Sony, Simpson signed a record deal with the record labels Primary Wave Music and Ellen DeGeneres's Eleveneleven.
 * Reaper Eternal (talk) 23:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead friend. Thanks a lot for helping me. No vice 7  Talk  13:09, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:28, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Another thing I just noticed:
 * The album debuted and peaked at number five in the US and was certified gold by the RIAA.
 * Did it debut at number five in the US (which is what this says), or did it debut and then peak at number five in the US? Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The album debuted at number five in the US. No vice 7  Talk  05:20, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good then. Reaper Eternal (talk) 11:22, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Support This looks very good now. One last thing though: combine the entries in the two small tables in 'Other appearances' into one. Otherwise, people are gonna think "huh, why isn't 'These Boots Are Made for Walkin' listed under Soundtrack appearances?" Anyway, that's minor, on the whole: good work!—indopug (talk) 13:25, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed! No vice 7  Talk  16:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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