Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Linkin Park discography/archive3


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 23:40, 3 February 2011.

Linkin Park discography

 * Nominator(s): Neo139 (talk) 01:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I don't know what else I can do with it xD I think I meets criteria to be featured. --Neo139 (talk) 01:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose Neutral Support - I don't find this list to reach FL criteria. Additionally, you are repeating similar things that were mentioned in the previous FLs. This list still needs a lot of work. I suggest you retract the nomination.  CallMe Nathan   &bull;  Talk2Me   01:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Nathan.
 * Support – All issues were fixed. The table is okay now. Novice7  |  Talk  04:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose: I'm sorry, but I agree per above comments; I would say the same. If every item was done, I'll change my oppose to a support (possibly).-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 10:47, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support now-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:35, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Neutral - Comments i had have been addressed, i unfortunately don't have the time to read check for any new errors so i cannot support it, but i no longer oppose this article being promoted. Nice work. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 06:11, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks!--Neo139 (talk) 13:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Comments - Don't use the small tags for the headers Peak chart header. Use either JPN or JAP don't use both. Since its an extended discography I would suggest adding style="text-align:center" to the start of the coding for the tables, to remove the excessive use of align="center". Error in Ref 40. Ref 56 and 63 needs a format parameter. Afro  ( Talk ) 21:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Small tags removed. JAP-->JPN. Added style="text-align:center" in albums/eps/singles table and removed the excessive use of align="center". Fixed Ref 40. And Ref 56 and 63, I don't know what you mean. If you can explain it I will appreciate it.^^ --Neo139 (talk) 05:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * That means that you need to add  to the refs. ref 56.2 and 63.2 are both pdf, so you should write  .-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 10:42, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Done thanks--Neo139 (talk) 17:33, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * "and was certified Diamond in United States[8][5]" "...number one on the US Billboard 200 and sold over 240,000 in its first week.[22][16]" Refs should be in numerical order. Can better sources not be found for the Soundtracks? example for Dracula 2000 couldn't |cat:90793|prd:90793 Play.com or Amazon not be used?  Afro  ( Talk ) 18:05, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Ref in numerical order. More sources added to soundtracks.--Neo139 (talk) 19:59, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The point I was making was that IMDB is generally not deemed reliable due to most of the content being user submitted. Afro  ( Talk ) 03:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Its ok. I didn't knew imdb content was user submitted. Anyway, all the soundtracks songs were previously released under albums or singles. Do I deleted the soundtrack section.--Neo139 (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

 Oppose  Lead needs to be rewritten, there's a lot of choppy prose ("The band is noted for its blend of rap rock and alternative metal" has nothing to do with sentences before and after it). For some reason, Hybrid Theory is discussed twice: I suggest dealing with the band's releases in a strictly chronological order to eliminate such redundancies. Remove information that is not vital to the LP discography; for example, the band-name change and mentions of RHCP and Green Day. Further, I think their LP Underground series of EPs and deserves a mention in the lead. In the compilation appearances (below), only list those songs which have not appeared in another album before. Finally, per WP:LEAD, information that is sourced in the body of the article needn't be cited with references in the lead (chart positions, certifications etc), so I suggest removing the cites to improve readability. Use one of the existing FLs at WP:DISCOG as a template for the lead.—indopug (talk) 12:35, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done: Deleted "The band is noted for its blend of rap rock and alternative metal. Merged Hybrid Theory info. Added some info about LPU EPs. Now only listing songs which have not appeared in other album before in compilation. Deleted ref in the lead that were already sourced in the body. --Neo139 (talk) 07:12, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll revisit in a couple of days (you can ping me if I don't). Meanwhile, per WP:DISCOGSTYLE, the soundtracks and compilations sub-sections should only mention songs that the band hadn't already released before, so entries like "One Step Closer" and "Points of Authority" shouldn't be there.—indopug (talk) 13:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done: deleted soundtracks that the band already released. Thanks


 * Comment Have all reviewers been asked to revisit? Dabomb87 (talk) 00:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Should I poke them in their talk? --Neo139 (talk) 02:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done 1, 2, 3, 4 :P --Neo139 (talk) 01:49, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Quick comment – Minor point, but a period is needed after the sentence "The band has produced ten number-one singles on the US Alternative Songs chart".  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 01:49, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done: thanks --Neo139 (talk) 03:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comments


 * How reliable is mikeshinoda.com?
 * Mike Shinoda is the dude of Linkin Park.--Neo139 (talk) 03:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a good source for certs. Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Thats true. I removed it.--Neo139 (talk) 13:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * I rewrote the lead (mostly rearranging stuff); let me know if I introduced any inaccuracies/deleted any important information.
 * Thanks ^^--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Most tables don't have the ""—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that region thing.
 * Done--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Most of those featured-artist singles seem to be credited to individual members of the band, as opposed to the band as a whole. I'm not sure they need to be listed (this is a discog of the band, not its individual members). Further, are all these singles, as opposed to just album tracks?
 * Done. Removed all except the ones that were from the hole band and not just one or two members.--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Considering how notable their efforts on the Billboard Alt. songs charts have been, I'm surprised that the chart isn't included in the singles table. Maybe replace the Japan chart (with only two, low-placed entries) with this?
 * Some months ago US Alt chart was on the article, but was a discussion about this (because of having two US charts). So I got removed, added a new country and talk about Us Alt Chart in the Lead.--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I see a huge amount of hidden text, which the article size very large, and difficult to work on slower connections. Please remove it.
 * Done--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * According to the lead, HT was cert, 4x platinum in Europe. Why isn't this in the table, it seems a much bigger deal than the Austrian certs.
 * I think the same. Some time ago the article had all the certs. That was ok per DISCOG. Then I add a Diamond cert to a FL, and got it reverted.  I asked about the revert with no reply. Some weeks later someone changed DISCOGSTLYE (without any discussion) and added that we should only add certs of the countries of the chart table. That was at the same time that I started with this FLC, and users here ask to remove the certs. So I removed. (Didn't had time to discuss in discogstyle talk while running FLC). Now we have less information in favor of looks, but it seems that is what most users want. --Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I see a number of "Records" and "Recordings" under label; these should be removed.
 * Done--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Is a separate column required for references? Couldn't you just stick them next to the album/track/EP name? (although this is just a stylistic issue, so it's up to you)
 * Most article don't use seperate column for refs, but I think it looks better for tables. Its a new trend =P --Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Video albums: since only two albums were certified, I think you can remove that column, and instead add a note below Format for that album—"US certification: platinum". Make the labels as "Warner Bros., Machine Shop".
 * Done--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * "Certifications for Linkin Park albums in Japon", "Peak chart positions for albums of Linkin Park in [the] United Kingdom". In fact, I suggest rewriting these to "Peak chart positions of Linkin Park albums in the ".
 * Done--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Soundtracks and Compilations: why does one have a release date, but the other not? I think a "Year" column for both should be sufficient. In fact, why not the two small tables? Mention "soundtrack" against those that are, in the Title column. Eg: Queen of the Damned soundtrack. Again, these aren't singles—maybe this table and the feat. artist songs table should go under an "Other appearances" section?—indopug (talk) 15:18, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done Added year, and now they are under other appearances section--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all the comments^^--Neo139 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support with final comments:
 * Not including the US Alt Songs in the charts is RLY dumb. I suggest you restart the discussion about this after this FLC. If the consensus stands to not include these, listing "Runaway" in the table is strange. Instead, remove it and make a note: "Although 'Runaway' was never released as a single, it charted at ## on the US Alt Songs chart."
 * Done: Added US Alt Chart. Someone and the talk page asked for it, so the result of the future discussion would be to include.--Neo139 (talk) 23:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you can merge that featured artist song to the main table, I don't think it is a big deal. But do make another note, clearly stating that LP were only featured artist.
 * Done--Neo139 (talk) 23:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Since "New Divide" is in the Singles table, is it necessary to include in the Soundtracks too? Looking at the songs in Other appearances again, I see that most are only by Chester Bennington, not Linkin Park. Remove these?
 * Done--Neo139 (talk) 23:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Why does Italy come before Ireland in all the tables?—indopug (talk) 05:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done lol (alphabet fail xd)--Neo139 (talk) 23:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Question Have you asked the user with the odd name to revisit?-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 09:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, but not since his last revisit. Although the lead has changed in content since his comment, the size is more or less the same and if by choppy he meant the size, I don't know what else I could add that is much important to be in the lead. So I'm not sure if ask for a second revisit or not.--Neo139 (talk) 19:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If I were you, I would ask him one more time. That won't hurt.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done link--Neo139 (talk) 04:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


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