Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Baltimore Ravens seasons/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 23 October 2023 (UTC).

List of Baltimore Ravens seasons

 * Nominator(s):  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 22:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

This is my third National Football League FLC, coming after List of Houston Texans seasons. This list documents the 27 seasons played by the Baltimore Ravens in the NFL. Unlike the Texans, they've had a little more success. Thanks in advance to everyone who provides their feedback :)  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 22:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * "Over their 27 seasons in the NFL, the Ravens have become a successful team, compiling the third highest regular season record among active franchises" - this makes it sound/could be interpreted as saying they have the third best record over those 27 seasons but (if I understand the source correctly) they have the third best record of all time among active franchises, some of which have existed since the 1920s. I would suggest rewording to "Over their 27 seasons in the NFL, the Ravens have become a successful team; their record of [insert all the numbers here] is the third-best all-time regular season record among active franchises"
 * "The Ravens have won two Super Bowl championships in franchise history" - I think the last three words are redundant as obviously the wins came during franchise history
 * "In addition to their their two Super Bowl wins" - there's a duplicate word in there
 * Any chance you could move the Poe and Lewis images to the right of the table? Having them where there at present causes (on my screen at least) massive whitespace below the key.  The Flacco and Harbaugh images could go there too
 * Alternatively, moving the awards key above the table might reduce the whitespace issue
 * Poe image caption needs a comma after Edgar Allen Poe
 * Think that's it :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ all, except for the image stuff. The images actually are aligned right, however, since the table is so large they cannot go to the right of the table without causing massive issues on smaller screens. When I test on my smaller screen, I see a little whitespace but nothing glaring. Is there any way you can send me a screenshot of what's going on? (Discord, email, etc.) Or at least if you can tell me your screen size that would be helpful. If you could see how List of Houston Texans seasons is formatted and if it's better for you that would be helpful too :)  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 14:33, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support - I guess the whitespace isn't that big a deal -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:21, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I ended up just removing most images, I also changed the format so that the keys are close to each other. The images aren't really required (none of the other season FLs have them) so I think this solution works, but if someone disagrees feel free to revert. I'm not sure how widespread that whitespace issue is, but if it's on most smaller laptop screens like I suspect it is probably best to avoid having it since many may experience it. If anyone knows of a way to cause line breaks in tables for small screens without forcing them on large screens, that would work as well but I don't think that's possible.  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 23:46, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is a drive-by comment, but if you utilized the Abbr template for the awards, you could lose the whole awards key which takes up a ton of space in the article. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 17:21, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I'm missing something, but when you wikilink an abbreviation, the abbreviation won't display, only the linked page. So it seems to be better to have the key. Plus that key helps a little with whitespace issues on smaller screens since I want to keep at least one image lol.  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 22:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Abbrlink is the correct template. This displays the tooltip even with the link. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 18:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅: Considering that image might get deleted anyway, it's hardly a reason.  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 15:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

, nothing else from me, lovely work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * MyCatIsAChonk
 * Is the table headers being unsortable standard? I don't see why some columns would be intentionally unsortable
 * From my quick checks, none of the other season FLs have sortable table headers.  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 15:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support then, nice work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


 * MrLinkinPark333 verification check
 * "The team began play in 1996 as a result of former Cleveland Browns owner Art Modell's decision to move the Browns to Baltimore." - source needed as it's not covered by ESPN.
 * "the third-best all-time regular season record" - I think this should be clarified that it's their win-loss percentage.
 * "fourth best playoff record" - same thing that this should be clarified as win-loss percentage.
 * A source to show that the 2012 Divisional Playoffs was 2OT is needed.
 * Source needed to show Greg Roman was Assistant Coach of the Year was 2019.
 * Similarly, duplicate Assistant Coach of the Year award for 2019 needs to be removed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:32, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I got everything :)  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 01:19, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support - thank you for the quick changes :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:32, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Image review – The lead photo has an appropriate free license, caption and alt text, unlike this mental image, which I will forever consider inappropriate. :-) Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:22, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm a Pats fan, so I'll always have a few inappropriate mental images of the Giants ;)  ULPS ( talk •  contribs ) 21:54, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Source review – Adding to the spot-check that was done earlier, source reliability and formatting both look fine throughout the list of references. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:17, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 21:06, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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