Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Banana Fish episodes/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 03:26:44 27 November 2019 (UTC).

List of Banana Fish episodes

 * Nominator(s): Morgan695 (talk) 02:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

I worked on this list back when the series was airing; it has been off-air for about eight months now, so the content is stable and unlikely to change in the future. The list concerns Banana Fish, an influential manga series in the 80s/90s that was adapted into a series last year. I believe the list provides a plot overview without veering into excessive detail, is throughly sourced, and has a well-written lead section. I appreciate any feedback or comments. Morgan695 (talk) 02:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Comments from ChrisThe Dude

 * "(alternately stylized as BANANA FISH)" - is this needed? If all it means is that the title is shown in capitals, I think it is unnecessary.  Coronation Street has its title shown in caps in its opening sequence, but I don't think the lead needs to say "(alternately stylized as CORONATION STREET)"
 * "although detectives Jenkins and Dickenson believe he is innocent, Evanstine arrests Ash" - presumably Evanstine is a third detective? Might be worth saying "their colleague Evanstine"..........
 * "used as a frontfor a" - missing space between two words
 * "Together with Shorter, Max, Eiji and Ibe, the five men visit Ash's family home" - that makes a total of nine men, which I don't think is what you mean. Best to just say "Together with Shorter, Max, Eiji and Ibe, Ash visit s his family home"
 * "Shorter later discovers that the Alexis Dawson" - don't think the word "the" is needed there
 * "the then kills Abraham" - seems to be at least one word missing here
 * "the National Health Institute, federal health facility run by Dr. Mannerheim" => "the National Health Institute, a federal health facility run by Dr. Mannerheim"
 * Spelling of Blanca suddenly changes to Blanka (and then later back to Blanca)
 * "Golzine and Yut-Lung hire Eduardo Foxx's group of mercenaries and former members of the French Foreign Legion, to capture Ash" - comma after Legion not needed
 * "Meanwhile, Lao Yen-Thai, Sing's half-brother has never forgiven Ash for killing Shorter, is ordered by Yut-Lung to kill Eiji, though he refuses to do so" => "Meanwhile, Lao Yen-Thai, Sing's half-brother, who has never forgiven Ash for killing Shorter, is ordered by Yut-Lung to kill Eiji, though he refuses to do so"
 * Think that's it from me.......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * @User:ChrisTheDude Thanks for the review. I've implemented the changes you suggested, as well as some general culling of excessively detailed plot summaries.. Morgan695 (talk) 18:48, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


 * A few further comments
 * The image seems to have disappeared?
 * I can see both "the group prepares" and "the group use" (eps 5 and 6) - is a group a plural or singular noun in the form of English in which the article is written?
 * "After visiting to Max's ex-wife" => "After visiting Max's ex-wife"
 * "discovers that young man" => "discovers that the young man"
 * "Golzine and Yut-Lung hires the militia of Eduardo Foxx" => "Golzine and Yut-Lung hire the militia of Eduardo Foxx"
 * All the best, ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I've incorporated these changes. Looks like the infobox was removed by an intervening edit, so I've re-added the image. Morgan695 (talk) 13:51, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be a massive pedant, which I am sure you find very irksome, but in episodes 5, 6 and 7 I can still see four uses of "the group [verb]" and in two cases the verb is singular and in the other two it's plural. I would just fix them, but I am not sure which version of English the article is written in (American?) so I am not 100% sure which usage is correct.  Sorry again...... :-( -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:34, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * @User:ChrisTheDude Ah, I see what you mean. This should be resolved now. Morgan695 (talk) 20:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Comments from Aoba47
Otherwise, everything looks good to me. I believe ChrisTheDude already has covered a lot so thank you for that. I have heard of this manga/anime when I was doing research on the boy's love genre as part of my M.A. project so it is nice to learn more about it. I hope my comments are helpful, and have a great rest of your day! Aoba47 (talk) 18:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I would add ALT text to the image in the lead.
 * What do you mean by a "key visual"? Is it like a poster?
 * This part "adding modern references such as smartphones and substituting the Vietnam War with the Iraq War." should have a citation.
 * Since almost everything is cited in the lead, then I would recommend adding citations for these sentences as well: "The series consists of two cours, totaling 24 episodes. Aniplex encapsulated the series into four volumes, in DVD and Blu-Ray formats."
 * I agree with ChrisTheDude's concern about the "the group [verb]" parts not being consistent in terms of the verbs being singular or plural.
 * I am uncertain if the reference/note in the episode synopsis for "The Catcher in the Rye" is entirely necessary. That information seems more relevant to the main article on the series rather than here as it is more about the writing and production while this list is more focused on plot, broadcasting, and release.
 * @User:Aoba47 Thank you for your review, and I'm happy to hear you learned more about the series from doing it. I've incorporated the citation and copy edits you suggested; a key visual is essentially a piece of promotional art, so I've used that word as a more widely-recognized alternative. Re: the citation in "The Catcher In The Rye," I added it awhile ago because this article and Banana Fish were the subject of a quasi-trolling edit war over whether the series truly ends with the protagonist dying; the citation clarifies the plot directly from the creator of the series. Morgan695 (talk) 20:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for addressing everything, and that all makes sense to me. I support this for promotion. It was a pleasure to read this. If you have the time, I would greatly appreciate any help with my current FAC. However, I understand if you do not have the time or interest so do not feel pressured to do so. Either way, good luck with this nomination and have a great rest of your week! Aoba47 (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Comments from Nihonjoe
I only have one question: All of my other potential comments/questions are covered by others, above. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 22:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Are there any sources discussing the names of the episodes? They all seem to be named after famous works of some sort. If there are sources, I think this would be a good thing to include as it seems to be a deliberate choice.
 * I've added a note to the third paragraph about the episode titles being references to literary works. Morgan695 (talk) 23:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Support. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 23:29, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Comments from Tintor2
Some minor thoughts I had: Other than that, I think other editors pointed the other stuff. Ping me and I will support if everything goes well.Tintor2 (talk) 02:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Can the directors in the episodes be referenced?
 * The second paragraph starts a bit confusing "A Banana Fish anime" It kinda feels like there was another anime. Maybe it could sound better as "The Banana Fish anime"
 * Edits have been made. The directors are cited in the air date references, but I've repeated the reference for clarity. Morgan695 (talk) 04:37, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Nice. I was looking to nitpick more but I only found a bit of wikilinks revision but I went bold. I support. Good work with this article.Tintor2 (talk) 15:12, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Source review passed, promoting. -- Pres N  03:26, 27 November 2019 (UTC)


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