Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Birmingham City F.C. players (fewer than 25 appearances)/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 21:09, 28 December 2012.

List of Birmingham City F.C. players (fewer than 25 appearances)

 * Nominator(s): Struway2 (talk) 13:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria. It's been some time since I've nominated anything here, so if conventions have changed, please be gentle with me. All constructive criticism welcome... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Support glad to see a decent contributor continuing to make FLs better every time. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: Shouldn't the title of this be List of Birmingham City F.C. players with fewer than 25 appearances? p  b  p  17:50, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * No. It's the third part of List of Birmingham City F.C. players, split on grounds of size into players with 100+ apps (which retains the basic name as permitted at WP:NCLL third para), those with 25–99 apps (List of Birmingham City F.C. players (25–99 appearances)) and those with 1–24. Previous featured examples using this convention are the Manchester United and Liverpool player lists at WP:FL, and many more in Category:Lists of association football players by club. The relevant naming convention, at WP:NCLL, prefers the form List of FOO: 25–99 appearances, but accepts the parenthesised version. What might well be a better question, although it would probably need to be discussed in a wider forum than this, is: for accuracy, clarity and consistency, shouldn't the title be List of Birmingham City F.C. players (1–24 appearances). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:42, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Comment –
 * The photo caption refers to Jack Lee, but the name of his article here is John Lee, and I don't see a reference to a nickname there. Is this all correct?
 * There is now... The article was written using info from a 1995 book, which called him John, but in the 2010 edition, he's Jack. Presume the more recent work ought to be more accurate. Will think about moving the article, but haven't got time today. Thanks for noticing.
 * The two website links in the general references need access dates, just like the websites used in cites.
 * Done.
 * What makes ref 137 (Northern Ireland's Footballing Greats) a reliable source? Looks like a blog to me. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 18:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:RS/N archive.
 * Thanks for your comments. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * Any reason why Fred and Tommy James don't have articles or are not red-linked?
 * The same reason as the other very early players: appearing in the FA Cup isn't one of the criteria for a presumption of notability as per WP:NFOOTBALL, and insufficient media coverage to pass the general notability guideline. Arthur James is different in that he was a top player at the time, regularly playing for the Birmingham FA XI in inter-association representative matches, which were basically one step down from senior international, and enough media coverage exists to write a better article than he's got at the moment.
 * refs should come after punctuation, currently ref 6 does not NapHit (talk) 09:40, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * MoS says that "The ref tags should immediately follow the text to which the footnote applies, including any punctuation". But there isn't any punctuation, so it just immediately follows the text. Please see the first example at MOS:REFPUNC.
 * Thanks for your comments. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:05, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Support my queries have been dealt and I feel the list meets the criteria. NapHit (talk) 02:14, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. As usual, good work. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:34, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
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