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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 14:38, 24 February 2010.

List of Braathens destinations

 * Nominator(s): Arsenikk (talk)  19:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has hundreds of airline destination lists, but this is the first to attempt FL status. It is radically innovative compared to the standard destination lists, including a historical summary to explain the context of the various destinations and containing all historic scheduled services (not just current). Since this is a defunct airline, the list will be inherently stable in the future. The convention has been to call this type of articles 'Foo destinations', but I am open to move it to 'List of Braathens destinations' if there is consensus for that. Arsenikk (talk)  19:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. Mm40 (talk) 14:09, 13 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment I think this should be moved to "List of Braathens destinations". I don't see any reason not to follow WP:LISTNAME, and the lack of "List of" makes me think there are prose descriptions of each destination. We can make the other lists conform later. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:21, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Article is now moved to List of Braathens destinations. Arsenikk (talk)  19:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm just wondering out of curiosity, is there any reason why its been decided to have the Text in the table at 85%? since its not a huge table. Afro  ( Not a Terrible Joke ) - Afkatk 09:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason was that when I originally created the table, I copied the formatting from another article. I have changed it to 100%, as there is no reason for the reduced font size. Arsenikk (talk)  19:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity again is there a reason why the Countries names aren't linked in the Table? Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk 17:26, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No real reason except that I though it would be overlinking. I have now added links. Arsenikk (talk)  16:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Overlink states "long sortable tables, in which each row should be able to stand on its own.". So don't worry about it. I was just wondering why doen't Trondheim have either a IATA or ICTO code and why doesn't Tønsberg also have an IATA code. Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk
 * Braathens dropped Tønsberg in the 1950s, and the airport was converted to a general aviation (GA) airport. Trondheim Airport, Lade was closed and replaced by Værnes in 1956. Because of this, they never received IATA codes, and Lade closed before an ICAO code was issued. IATA codes are only issues to public airports, while GA airports are issued ICAO codes.
 * Shouldn't you mention that in like a little note or something? Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk 17:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It is now. Arsenikk (talk)  21:01, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I support I guess I have no real issues with this list. Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk 23:28, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll give a fuller review later. The prose could do with a copy-edit from a fresh pair of eyes, and I'll try to do for you. A few quick thoughts on the presentation, though:
 * Comments from Bencherlite
 * Have you considered having a sortable table of destinations? "Country" would have to become one of the columsn, instead of being effectively a sub-heading under "city".
 * Do you have first / last dates for each destination?
 * China did not control Hong Kong throughout this period; it was a British colony until 1997 when the lease expired and it was handed back to China. So unless Braathens only started flying there after handover date, it's misleading to refer to it as "China" without fuller explanation.
 * Jersey is not actually part of the United Kingdom just to be awkward... Having said that, if you can find a Brit who can accurately and clearly describe the constitutional status of Jersey in two sentences maximum, I'll be impressed (and I speak as a Brit!) BencherliteTalk 22:16, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have added the countries as columns and made the full table sortable. At the same time, I have sorted the table [by default] by city, not by county then city. I have changed the Hong Kong flag, as it was served by Braathens SAFE from 1949 to 1954, but I left Jersey under UK flag, since I don't really understand what country it is in. I will try to add the begin and end dates later, but the reason I chose not to include them when I originally created the list, was because I though I lacked sources for some of the end dates. I will look into this again. There are also a few airports that were served with significant wholes (for instance, at the top of my mind I think Sandefjord was added, removed, added and removed). But I should be able to find a way around that. Thanks for the feedback, it has made the list look a lot better :) Arsenikk (talk)  16:18, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Begin and end dates for all destinations have now been added. Arsenikk <sup style="color:grey;">(talk)  14:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Support all my issues resolved. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

The list itself looks OK - I've carried out some minor copyedits, which I hope don't alter the meaning. BencherliteTalk 16:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Further comments from Bencherlite
 * The history section is a bit too much "In year x, y happened. In year a, b happened.  In year c, d happened". Can you vary the phrasing more, please? It's rather heavy going at the moment.  Can any of that material be dropped? You've got the links to the history articles, of course.
 * Jersey isn't part of the UK; I suggest that you use the Jersey flag, give the country as Jersey and the city as Saint Helier.
 * The history section was written before the years were added to the list, so I have partially rewritten the section to be a bit more vague and "soft", since specific years can always be found in the list. Now that there is a year listed in the table, the whole history section could be dropped, but I would rather not see too much of a compromise. Either all destinations have to be included, or the whole section needs to go. A short summary is offered in the lead, so I am ambivalent as to weather the section is kept. People wanting to learn more can always read to two extensive history articles. <strong style="color:green;">Arsenikk <sup style="color:grey;">(talk)  12:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Support, looking good now. Nice job. BencherliteTalk 21:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


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