Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Buffalo Sabres head coaches


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 04:46, 12 June 2008.

List of Buffalo Sabres head coaches
Self-nomination - It seems to meet all featured list criteria. It is well illustrated, well written lead, and it is also well referenced. This list seems ready for FL. Thanks, «  Milk's Favorite Cøøkie  ( talk  /  contribs )23:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Support (as nom) «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  23:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As was pointed out to you at T:TDYK, the article has false information, and doesn't match the sources. Why would you list it here knowing that? Or is having correct information not a criteria for featured lists? - Bobet 03:19, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really, the source was correct. Gatoclass was confused because this wasn't added at that time. «  Milk's Favorite Cøøkie  ( talk  /  contribs )20:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've no doubt that the source is correct. The problem is, that the article isn't. According to the very source you've cited (this one), both Ted Nolan and Lindy Ruff won the Jack Adams, while coaching the Sabres. The article, however, specifically states that Scotty Bowman is the only Jack Adams winner. - Bobet 20:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Did not notice this - apologies. «  Milk's Favorite Cøøkie  ( talk  /  contribs )20:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * First caption is garbled.
 * Now it is only grammatically incorrect. There should be a second comma for the offsetting the parenthetical phrase "the current head coach for the Buffalo Sabres" .--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Second para: rm "only" from first sentence.
 * The sentence is still ungrammatical. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Something is wrong with "... lowest winning percentage of any Sabres coach, with .370 during his 120-game tenure." Try "with a .370 percentage" in place of with .370. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What was Floyd Smiths record.
 * coaching record s/b winning percentage I believe, but I am not sure with the new overtime tiebreaker point system. Does the term come from a secondary source?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You should state who the coach was for each Stanley Cup appearance. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:CAPTION regarding punctuation .--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Second caption still fails.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ with the comments above. Thanks, «  Milk's Favorite Cøøkie  ( talk  /  contribs )20:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Lest there be some confusion, if I did not strike the initial complaint you have not resolved it to my satisfaction.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment It should follow the style set by List of New Jersey Devils head coaches, an FL. -- Scorpion0422 23:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't find half the information on the assistants for this list. It would also require a complete redesign table. Furthermore, that list doesn't meet criteria #6. «  Milk's Favorite Cøøkie  ( talk  /  contribs )01:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Still, you should not sacrifice useful information just for the sake of making a page look nicer. -- Scorpion0422 18:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Specific phrases should not be linked multiple times in a given table. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. «  Milk's Favorite Cøøkie  ( talk  /  contribs )21:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * See WP:DASH. There should not be spaces at times and none at others as I see it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I am talking about the team column. The spaces are not correct, if I understand WP:DASH.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Object Until you get back to me on the WP:DASHes. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  18:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support All my issues are resolved.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support, looks good but short enough it could be merged into the main article. GreenJoe 23:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment. I agree with Scorpion over the presentation of the table. See also the head coaches articles of NFL teams that are FLs (and yeah, I know it's not the same sport). Anyway, a precedence has been set, and to change it because the information for this one hasn't been found is a poor excuse. Sorry.. :-/ Matthewedwards (talk· contribs· count· email) 08:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Support, except I have a few issues.
 * Some way of stopping the "have [page break] [1]" in the lead?
 * Relocate the comma after "record" to after "Ramsay". Possible comma after "2001" if you like it.
 * "Win – Loss percentage"—unspaced en dash; any need for capital L? Unspaced en dashes for year ranges in column three.
 * The top row: unless you open you window wide, the (W–L–T) and W–L % break lines horribly. No space before the %.
 * 'Tis a pity the two lower images can't be repositioned say, in the "Key" section, to allow the table to spread out without unreasonable widening of the window. Might be hard on smaller screens: to get the table functioning properly in horizontal terms, I had to widen the window to 31 cm, which takes up most of my large 24-inch monitor.
 * The "Hockey-Ref.com" site: the copyright owner at the bottom is "Copyright © 2000-2008 Sports Reference LLC." I'm sure that has to be cited in the ref section. Ask User:Ealdgyth, the expert? TONY   (talk)  15:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay - working on the comments. Please don't close this FLC until they are finished. «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  18:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Done with everything. «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  19:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Good enough, but...
 * Comments
 * In the first mention of the Jack Adams Award, you should have reference after the comma.
 * The following sentences do not have a reference: "Punch Imlach, Scotty Bowman and Roger Neilson have all made it to the Hockey Hall of Fame...He is followed by Craig Ramsay who coached the team to a .412 record from 1986 to 1987. Floyd Smith has the best coaching record in terms of winning percentage, with a 0.503 record, during his term from 1974 to 1977. He is followed by his successor, Hall of Famer Marcel Pronovost, who coached the Sabres to a .611 record from 1977 to 1978."
 * The third paragraph has no references.


 * Done with everything. «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  19:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments


 * "the Jack Adams Award [1], an honor " — reference goes after all punctuation per WP:FOOTNOTE
 * "See also" section goes before "References" per WP:LAYOUT

Gary King ( talk ) 21:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Done with everything. «  Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  19:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Well, I've tried hard, but I can't find anything wrong with the article. Good work. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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