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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 20:21, 10 October 2009.

List of Celebrity Big Brother housemates

 * Nominator(s): DJ 22:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that it is on par with other similar featured lists such as List of Big Brother (U.S.) HouseGuests and List of American Idol finalists. DJ 22:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:24, 23 August 2009 (UTC) Done

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Spell out RTE in the publishers. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:18, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments from --  SRE.K.A.L. 24 [c]


 * On the table, the names should be sorted by last name (you can use Template:sortname), and the notes should be unsortable (put  in front of the notes).
 * I don't think this should be done as, within Big Brother, housemates are never reffered to by their surname but simply as Chantelle, George, Rula etc. In a similar way that we wouldn't sort book characters this way, I don't think we should sort these people this way in this context. (It's also a bit like how they are reffered to as "celebrities" within the programme when some of them aren't) Dale 17:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I also watch Big Brother too (well, the American version), so I totally understand what you are saying. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  19:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * On the guest table, why is it fixed to 75% width? Why not just let it be 100%?
 * I tried that and it looked a mess - there was too much blank space. Could it stay as it is? Dale 17:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ehhh...how about the sortable function? Could that be used on the table? --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  19:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, because some of the rows span over a few lines. And its such a small table, it doesn't need to be sortable really. Dale 15:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


 * On the houseguests table, one column says "Reason for notability", while on the guests table, it's "Claim to fame". Choose either or to be in both. Done
 * Would be nice if the notes are aligned center.
 * How is this done? Dale 17:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Did it myself instead, just so that we won't waste time. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  19:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

--  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  22:37, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yay, second Big Brother list nomination!


 * One more comment, would you be able to format the tables like List of Big Brother (U.S.) HouseGuests, by just removing the rankings, and not including the hometown? If this is too bothersome, just remove the rankings, since its practically the same as the finishes. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  19:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Where the Celebs live is disputed - some sources list Pete Burns as Liverpool, others as Italy. Germaine Greer lives in both Britian and Australia, Coolio lives in both LA and Britain etc and it also borders onto WP:TRIVIA. I don't think the rankings should be removed either - they are important. Dale 15:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently, the readers have no idea what the rankings are for. Some will probably guess that it is by eviction, but others may not. Best way to fix this is to name the column, or create a key. Also, carefully read what I said. I didn't say include the hometown, since hometowns are usually disputed, and doesn't really matter for Celebrity Big Brother. Is it possible to point out which day that they were evicted, third place, walked, etc.? --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  18:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support - all looks good to me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the day of their exit should be included like "Evicted: Day xx" like in List of Big Brother (U.S.) HouseGuests other than that I support this list for FL-Class.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  07:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Support, comments resolved. --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 22:36, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Comments few nitpicky issues:
 * Why is TV presenter linked all other mentions in tables but not for Richard Madeley and Judy Finnigan?
 * For Alice Barry and Rebecca Ryan's "Reason for Notability", either separate the two or make "Actress" plural.
 * Category:Big Brother (UK TV series) is redundant because Category:Big Brother UK contestants is its subcategory. Mm40 (talk) 17:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * 1) Why is it called "Reason for notability " and not just "Profession" ?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) What's the purpose of the Year column?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) The day of eviction should be stated.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) I don't see what the first column is for. You already said in the lead 57 celebrities, no need to count them again.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) A finish column would be useful to compare the various winners.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments Just a couple. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Diaa above that something should be done to further expand on when someone was evicted. Perhaps "Evicted first/second/third/etc"?
 * In addition, could the winners at least be marked by a background color? It would make reading the table far easier, IMO.
 * Not much to do now, so please fix up remaining issues and then I'll happily promote. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:16, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Support. The gorilla-fur text consumes a chunk of the lead but has nothing to do with the celebrity contestants; it should be moved to the CBB article. There is already plenty intro on the series in the first paragraph so the remaining lead paragraphs should concentrate on the contestants. None of the external links meet our WP:EL policy for this list and should all be removed. Some may be relevant for a CBB article but not a list of housemates article. The twitter link has no place on Wikipedia. Colin°Talk 19:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree fully with what Colin has said, though I do not support. Regarding the first paragraph, the link to Big Brother (UK) is included, so there is no need to describe what it is in as much detail. It's about the celebrities/housemates, so let's get to the point and read about them. There was one sentence in that paragraph that struck me as odd, too: "...in which a group of celebrities, called housemates,..." I would remove the "called housemates" and stick that here: "The actions of the participants, called housemates, are recorded..." As for ELs, I could accept the official site, IMDB and TV.com at a push, although they're not exactly housemate related, and that is what this page is about. Twitter and Youtube are totally unnecessary. Will be happy to support if these points are addressed either through a decent argument as to why they are here, or action is made to actually fix. Best, Matthewedwards : Chat  00:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
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